Are you a Trump supporter?

[henryp]

I get your situation.  You've got a house of cards you're trying to maintain based on a mildly hilarious combination of self-delusion and the idea that you're some sort of truth teller.  And that's understandable.  We all got to do what we got to do to get by, so you get a pass.  

Hey moron, it's not possible to be deluded about what you honestly believe. You're confusing illusion with delusion. Even if I'm self-deluded I'm still honestly self-deluded.

As it happens, I'm not self deluded, but you are a trump-loving moron that lacks intelligence.

Do you honestly believe it though?  I assumed you recognized it on some level for what it was.  Or maybe you don't.  But I've seen how you reacted on these forums a couple times when someone took off the kiddie gloves and was blunt with you for a brief moment.  To me it appeared there was an awareness on some level that you're deluding yourself.  

But I'm just a dum dum saying dum dum things.  So I wouldn't worry about it.

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If people recognized the media's sensationalizing, I don't think they'd buy in like they do.  And really, it may not be the media that's the root of the problem.  The media just helps some people get to where they want to go?  Because the goal for a lot of people seems to be "Imagine the reality that is the worst regarding the opposition, and assume that's true."  I think the media in a lot of cases is just helping people think up a worst possible reality.

Hillary and pizzagate is a great example.  Hillary is a lousy person, and probably a criminal as well.  But that in no way justifies thinking she ran a child sex ring or whatever that story was out of some pizza place.  If this were a conservative forum, I'd ask the same question of right wing folks.  

What do you think keeps people from noticing they've been wrong/misled over and over without adjusting how they come to their next opinion?

Those people still think they’re right about those things, lol.  Why would they think they need to adjust their methods?

For the fringe, no doubt.  But the narratives also have legs with people who don't seem particularly daffy.  And I don't think they keep on believing the false stories forever.  They just kind of never talk about them again.

What's the thing in gambling, where you only remember your wins?  Maybe that has something to do with it.  So someone believes 5 false stories, and then the 6th story they believe has substance.  And they say "See, I was right!"  While 'forgetting' the first 5 stories that were bullshit that they believed.

That's what I was curious about.  All the losing bets, and if people even acknowledge their existence.  I guess if you pretend or block out that they ever happened and selectively remember the bets that you won, there's no way to draw any conclusions or adjust your thinking based on the losing bets?

[Edwardo Piet]

So far we have 4 self-identified idiots who fell for the WLB's line of shit.

Yup. And an alternative title for this thread should be "Do you want to be on my ignore list?"

Now I get it, retards may think that it's a sign of admitting defeat to ignore counter positions. But some positions are so retarded they deserve to be ignored and simply laughed at. I take the position of being a Trumptard about as seriously as I take the position that Elvis is still alive. Although at least the latter position is harmless.

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Do you honestly believe it though? 

Yes I do and that's still the case regardless of if you honestly believe me so to think otherwise is just yourself wasting your own time with pointless speculation.

Which is fine by me, I don't care if a Trumptard wastes their time.

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To me it appeared there was an awareness on some level that you're deluding yourself. 

At it appeared that way to you because you have crap reasoning skills.

I can come across as really offended and pissed off and I just do it for fun I don't actually give a shit. I act aggressive and that's different to being genuinely angry. My behavior doesn't match my emotions (whatever they are). I mostly have more modes than moods. That's what I like to call them sometimes anyway.

It amuses me when a Trumptard will see me acting all aggressive and calling fucking idiots fucking idiots, and the Trumptard is like "I must have touched a nerve" and the other trumptard kudoses them. It makes me laugh my balls off because I'm here all deadpan knowing that they're completely oblivious to how I actually feel because I'm not a normal person I'm fucking weird but I'm also fucking rational. If anything I'm too rational.

And I can say whatever the fuck I want because there's no reason not to. It would be irrational to repress my passions. Pragmatically irrational, and pointless.

But for me my 'passions' are not the same as most. I can behave in ways that if it was any other person they'd be genuinely angry or offended or have their feelings hurt, but to me it's all just a thing people do. Don't have to feel emotional to behave emotional. In fact, the fact I don't feel anything means I can behave however the fuck I want because I'm not limited by my feelings. And it isn't fake to do so because how can I fake what I feel if I am not even aware of what I'm supposed to be faking? My behaviors never imply emotion even when it's misleading.

But I'm just a dum dum saying dum dum things.  So I wouldn't worry about it.

I don't worry about you being a dum dum Trumptard saying dum things.

[*Deidre*]

I think he has some good ideas, but my trouble with him aside from the obvious, is that he keeps firing staff members. How can anything get done? I just personally think that we need a total change in government. The two party system isn't working. I hope for an independent to rise from the ashes.

[henryp]

Do you honestly believe it though? 

Yes I do and that's still the case regardless of if you honestly believe me so to think otherwise is just yourself wasting your own time with pointless speculation.

Which is fine by me, I don't care if a Trumptard wastes their time.

Of course I'm wasting my time.  This is all just a hobby.  And I'm not arguing with anyone that I'm aware of.  Just a friendly discussion.  Some of you lot just get worked up rather easily.

[Edwardo Piet]

Ah, yes.  The trump whore doubling down in the manner of the loofa faced shit gibbon.

You're not really addressing his point. Calling him a Trump whore isn't defending your position.

No no, you misunderstand. Being a Trump whore is his position.

[henryp]

To me it appeared there was an awareness on some level that you're deluding yourself. 

At it appeared that way to you because you have crap reasoning skills.

I can come across as really offended and pissed off and I just do it for fun I don't actually give a shit. I act aggressive and that's different to being genuinely angry. My behavior doesn't match my emotions (whatever they are). I mostly have more modes than moods. That's what I like to call them sometimes anyway.

It amuses me when a Trumptard will see me acting all aggressive and calling fucking idiots fucking idiots, and the Trumptard is like "I must have touched a nerve" and the other trumptard kudoses them. It makes me laugh my balls off because I'm here all deadpan knowing that they're completely oblivious to how I actually feel because I'm not a normal person I'm fucking weird but I'm also fucking rational. If anything I'm too rational.

And I can say whatever the fuck I want because there's no reason not to. It would be irrational to repress my passions. Pragmatically irrational, and pointless.

But for me my 'passions' are not the same as most. I can behave in ways that if it was any other person they'd be genuinely angry or offended or have their feelings hurt, but to me it's all just a thing people do. Don't have to feel emotional to behave emotional. In fact, the fact I don't feel anything means I can behave however the fuck I want because I'm not limited by my feelings. And it isn't fake to do so because how can I fake what I feel if I am not even aware of what I'm supposed to be faking? My behaviors never imply emotion even when it's misleading.

Oh, it's not calling fucking idiots fucking idiots.  It's when someone you consider 'friendly' lets slip a bit of honesty.  But maybe that actually supports what you say about 'truly believing', because the couple times I've seen it happened, you took it differently than just about everything else.  And the common thread seemed to be others perception of you not matching either your perception of yourself, or maybe your perception of their perception of you.

It's all very interesting.

[vorlon13]

If it looks like the 2018 dems congressional winners are going to impeach Trump without disposing of Pence FIRST . . .

[Mermaid]

Hayyyyyyyyyyyyyle no. 

[Fireball]

If Pence is hamstrung by a simple majority of Dems, I'm OK with that. He can just hobble out the rest of cheeto von tweeto's term, while the world breathes a collective sigh of relief (and Putin will still figure out something to do).

[vorlon13]

Pence is infinitely more skilled than Trumply. Would need a veto proof democrat majority in House and Senate to neutralize that religious fundatard adequately. And some kind of iron clad guaranty the dems aren't going to piss away majority in 2020.

Pence drank the fucking Jesus Kool-Aid, he ain't a cynic, he's a fucking BELIEVER. And not scared to govern accordingly. His Jesus told him so.


Hell, ain't Trump dismantling Jesusism fast enough we would consider changing?

Shit, abortion is ONE DNA test away from becoming a sacrament. And only Trump can give us that gift.