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Since you are so sensitive about your bible, G-A...or I suppose any bible as there are so many of them... let's try an excerpt from a different book to demonstrate the point.

Quote:Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans. Many a brave soul did it send hurrying down to Hades, and many a hero did it yield a prey to dogs and vultures, for so were the counsels of Jove fulfilled from the day on which the son of Atreus, king of men, and great Achilles, first fell out with one another.

And which of the gods was it that set them on to quarrel? It was the son of Jove and Leto; for he was angry with the king and sent a pestilence upon the host to plague the people, because the son of Atreus had dishonoured Chryses his priest. Now Chryses had come to the ships of the Achaeans to free his daughter, and had brought with him a great ransom: moreover he bore in his hand the sceptre of Apollo wreathed with a suppliant's wreath and he besought the Achaeans, but most of all the two sons of Atreus, who were their chiefs.

"Sons of Atreus," he cried, "and all other Achaeans, may the gods who dwell in Olympus grant you to sack the city of Priam, and to reach your homes in safety; but free my daughter, and accept a ransom for her, in reverence to Apollo, son of Jove."

On this the rest of the Achaeans with one voice were for respecting the priest and taking the ransom that he offered; but not so Agamemnon, who spoke fiercely to him and sent him roughly away. "Old man," said he, "let me not find you tarrying about our ships, nor yet coming hereafter. Your sceptre of the god and your wreath shall profit you nothing. I will not free her. She shall grow old in my house at Argos far from her own home, busying herself with her loom and visiting my couch; so go, and do not provoke me or it shall be the worse for you."

The old man feared him and obeyed. Not a word he spoke, but went by the shore of the sounding sea and prayed apart to King Apollo whom lovely Leto had borne. "Hear me," he cried, "O god of the silver bow, that protectest Chryse and holy Cilla and rulest Tenedos with thy might, hear me oh thou of Sminthe. If I have ever decked your temple with garlands, or burned your thigh-bones in fat of bulls or goats, grant my prayer, and let your arrows avenge these my tears upon the Danaans."

Thus did he pray, and Apollo heard his prayer. He came down furious from the summits of Olympus, with his bow and his quiver upon his shoulder, and the arrows rattled on his back with the rage that trembled within him. He sat himself down away from the ships with a face as dark as night, and his silver bow rang death as he shot his arrow in the midst of them. First he smote their mules and their hounds, but presently he aimed his shafts at the people themselves, and all day long the pyres of the dead were burning.

For nine whole days he shot his arrows among the people, but upon the tenth day Achilles called them in assembly- moved thereto by Juno, who saw the Achaeans in their death-throes and had compassion upon them. Then, when they were got together, he rose and spoke among them.

Homer,  The Iliad,  Book I

Now here we have an old book - far older than any bible - also of uncertain authorship, which purports to describe the acts of the Gods and Goddesses of Olympus.  I am going to take a wild guess and assume that you do not accept the deeds of Apollo shooting down Greeks willy-nilly with his bow as factual. 

I'll give you a chance to answer.
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For once we don't have a post and runner. Too bad I'm not particularly interested in the thread. xD

(April 26, 2018 at 11:09 pm)G Alan Wrote: When you say "special book" are you referring to rhe Holy Bible? Why do you call a book that someone believes in horseshit? Have you proved that its horseshit? I know the burden of prove lies upon the theist. Yet you call it horseshit?

Technically, the burden of proof lies with the one making the positive claim. You are correct in demanding evidence for the claim that the bible is horseshit.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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Quote:You are correct in demanding evidence for the claim that the bible is horseshit.

1. Talking snakes
2. Tree of knowledge
3.  World covering flood
4.  Sun stopping in the sky
5. Mrs. Cain
6. The Exodus
7 The Conquest
8  David's empire
9  Solomon
10 etc., etc
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(April 27, 2018 at 7:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:You are correct in demanding evidence for the claim that the bible is horseshit.

1. Talking snakes
2. Tree of knowledge
3.  World covering flood
4.  Sun stopping in the sky
5. Mrs. Cain
6. The Exodus
7 The Conquest
8  David's empire
9  Solomon
10 etc., etc

I'm not disagreeing. I was just making a logical claim.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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I was just providing a list of things for which there is no evidence.
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(April 27, 2018 at 5:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Everybody seems to forget about the last book of the NT when talking about the NT.

There is indeed truth in the bible. The Book Of Revelation is proof positive that magic mushrooms were growing in Palestine. ~ 0-100 AD.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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(April 27, 2018 at 9:29 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(April 27, 2018 at 5:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Everybody seems to forget about the last book of the NT when talking about the NT.

There is indeed truth in the bible. The Book Of Revelation is proof positive that magic mushrooms were growing in Palestine. ~ 0-100 AD.

When I read it all I get is reward/revenge death cult.

Why the hell did they include it???
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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(April 27, 2018 at 9:33 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 27, 2018 at 9:29 pm)https://atheistforums.org/newreply.php?t...to=1744271 Succubus Wrote: There is indeed truth in the bible. The Book of Revelation is proof positive that magic mushrooms were growing in Palestine. ~ 0-100 AD.

When I read it all I get is reward/revenge death cult.

Why the hell did they include it???

Interesting question.

Catholic-lady, et al. What's your take on the last book of the bible?

Edit: I tried to fix the quote thingy, but his tongue of brass was licking my ear.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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(April 27, 2018 at 9:33 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 27, 2018 at 9:29 pm)Succubus Wrote: There is indeed truth in the bible. The Book Of Revelation is proof positive that magic mushrooms were growing in Palestine. ~ 0-100 AD.

When I read it all I get is reward/revenge death cult.

Why the hell did they include it???

To scare the dolts.
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(April 27, 2018 at 9:44 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(April 27, 2018 at 9:33 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: When I read it all I get is reward/revenge death cult.

Why the hell did they include it???

Interesting question.

Catholic-lady, et al. What's your take on the last book of the bible?

Edit: I tried to fix the quote thingy, but his tongue of brass was licking my ear.

I'm not very familiar with it, to be honest. The focus is mainly on the life/teachings of Jesus, and Catholic lay folks in general have a horrible reputation for not being very knowledgeable of the bible.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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