(April 28, 2018 at 9:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Using absolutes - in this case, anyroad - is what is known as 'realism'.  The fact that you opted to respond using a snide reference to fantasy is your own lookout.

Boru

Not actually, I was just point out that you're talking out your ass.

(April 28, 2018 at 9:02 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 28, 2018 at 9:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Using absolutes - in this case, anyroad - is what is known as 'realism'.  The fact that you opted to respond using a snide reference to fantasy is your own lookout.

Boru

Not actually, I was just point out that you're talking out your ass.

Can you be more specific?

Boru

(April 27, 2018 at 11:55 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(April 27, 2018 at 11:47 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Considering that people died from being exposed to new continents,  I'm skeptical that there is a habitable planet. We evolved for this one.

Yes, but those new continents are still habitable.

There is a great range between “some people with great effort can live on it” one the one hand, and “not even the unprepared is likely to die on it” on the other.

You think of the estimated >400 billion planets in the Milky Way, not one will have conditions falling in that gap?

We can't really know, now can we? I guess if humans develop the technology to reach them, they'll probably have the technology to survive on them.

However if diseases here on earth can wipe us out with such success, that other worldly ones would have a 100% kill rate, as we would have 0 immunity. Of course anything about habitable worlds is just 100% speculation. We have 0 idea about how common life is in the universe.

It's possible that alien life has reached earth (whether accidentally on a meteorite or by other means) and just died immediately because of the conditions here not being suitable.

(April 28, 2018 at 9:55 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(April 28, 2018 at 9:02 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Not actually, I was just point out that you're talking out your ass.

Can you be more specific?

Boru

You said "We will never, EVER colonize other planets. " Absolute and impossible to prove. 

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(April 28, 2018 at 10:04 am)SaStrike Wrote: It's possible that alien life has reached earth (whether accidentally on a meteorite or by other means) and just died immediately because of the conditions here not being suitable.

OR brought life to this planet in the first place. The Alan Hills meteorite, shown to be from Mars, could be an example of the of vehicle for this relay.

Quote:You said "We will never, EVER colonize other planets. " Absolute and impossible to prove. 

Oh, I see.  When I use absolutes, I'm talking out of my ass.  When YOU use absolutes, it perfectly OK.  Got it.

Boru

(April 28, 2018 at 10:22 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:You said "We will never, EVER colonize other planets. " Absolute and impossible to prove. 

Oh, I see.  When I use absolutes, I'm talking out of my ass.  When YOU use absolutes, it perfectly OK.  Got it.

Boru

Where did I use an absolute?

If I did use an absolute does that mean it cancels your absolute?

(April 28, 2018 at 6:00 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 28, 2018 at 2:34 am)AFTT47 Wrote: To anyone who is interested in the true future of humanity, I give you https://www.isaacarthur.net/

FORGET PLANETS! You don't colonize planets - you build them. Our future in space is in rotating habitats that provide exactly the conditions we need or want. We can build enough of these with resources in our own solar system to provide living space for trillions of people - if we want to. I personally hope we will lose our desire to mindlessly reproduce ourselves like a cancer.

The bottom line though is that planets are NOT an ideal place to live. Their gravity well makes them difficult to travel from. The same gravity well pulls in asteroids and comets that can kill us. We originated on a planet but we must not remain tied to it or others like it. We originated on a planet but remaining there is like a baby remaining in a crib.

And we'll have that capacity before this planet goes into the shitter?

We better hope so - otherwise, we're screwed. thankfully, we have a couple of billionaires (Musk and Bezos) working on it.

(April 28, 2018 at 10:26 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 28, 2018 at 10:22 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Oh, I see.  When I use absolutes, I'm talking out of my ass.  When YOU use absolutes, it perfectly OK.  Got it.

Boru

Where did I use an absolute?

If I did use an absolute does that mean it cancels your absolute?

'...impossible to prove' is an absolute.  And no, one absolute doesn't cancel out another.  But accusing someone of using absolutes when you do it yourself makes you a steaming great hypocrite.

For what it's worth, yes, my saying we will never colonize other planets is an absolute.  So what?

Boru

(April 28, 2018 at 11:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(April 28, 2018 at 10:26 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Where did I use an absolute?

If I did use an absolute does that mean it cancels your absolute?

'...impossible to prove' is an absolute.  And no, one absolute doesn't cancel out another.  But accusing someone of using absolutes when you do it yourself makes you a steaming great hypocrite.

For what it's worth, yes, my saying we will never colonize other planets is an absolute.  So what?

Boru

Well, of course, you're completely right, absolutely.