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In the beginning....
#31
RE: In the beginning....
(April 30, 2018 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: You speak no truth when it comes to God

And what exactly is truth? Doing what you do which is ridiculously apologizing for the character of God who is jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully? Because that's not truth.

(April 30, 2018 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: God did not lie and you did not respond to the important things of the previous post.

Yeah God did not lie to fanatical apologist who invents his own "facts" like where the orchids live

(April 30, 2018 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: Seems you have no real answers to anything, the pot trying to call the kettle black.

LOL! "No real answers" to what exactly? To the notion that you think orchids originated in America and Australia? Are you kidding me? For a person like you that is unable to look at encyclopedia or online to see where orchids are dispersed because he doesn't believe in science books and encyclopedias what chance to I have to convince you that Orchids are disturbed all over the world inducing Middle East?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#32
RE: In the beginning....
(April 27, 2018 at 10:48 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The Jewish people prided themselves in being completely accurate in the retelling of stories so the meaning wouldn't be lost to the next generation.

Says who, G-C?  You?  You have no credibility at all.  You know anthropologists and psychologists have studied this issue.  You are completely wrong.  Maybe you better read Ehrman's "Jesus Before The Gospels."  That is, if you can put your fucking bible down long enough to learn anything.

It's fairly easy to remember the main characters and what they did.  Sirach chapters 44-51 (CEB) summarizes the Old Testament characters https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=CEB

The method can be used to remember all kinds of things.  It's useful to teach a child the method so that he can use it in his school work.
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#33
RE: In the beginning....
Quote:I've given answers to this several times and you are still unable to understand, why?

GC

LOL, the Bible carries more weight here than you and your spins do.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#34
RE: In the beginning....
(May 2, 2018 at 3:15 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(April 30, 2018 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: You speak no truth when it comes to God

And what exactly is truth? Doing what you do which is ridiculously apologizing for the character of God who is jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully? Because that's not truth.

Guess what, you'll have the opportunity, to say this before God himself, yet you want be able to say anything because you will be astounded at Who He really is an you will realize you will not be able to spend an eternity with Him. 

(April 30, 2018 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: God did not lie and you did not respond to the important things of the previous post.

FM Wrote:Yeah God did not lie to fanatical apologist who invents his own "facts" like where the orchids live
I made up nothing and actually asked a question on the orchid that you did not answer, so apparently you did not know the answer and for all I know you made the entire thing up.
(April 30, 2018 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: Seems you have no real answers to anything, the pot trying to call the kettle black.

FM Wrote:LOL! "No real answers" to what exactly? To the notion that you think orchids originated in America and Australia? Are you kidding me? For a person like you that is unable to look at encyclopedia or online to see where orchids are dispersed because he doesn't believe in science books and encyclopedias what chance to I have to convince you that Orchids are disturbed all over the world inducing Middle East?

 Bold by me, I did not say anything close to that, I told what I found on the net about one specific orchid. You do need to improve your reading comprehension and/or leave your biases out of your conversations with Christians, if you do not how can we ever take you seriously. I very much like and enjoy science and without it i could have never worked the job I did for many years. Like I said I found all that on the net, what I did not find was that particular orchid being in the Middle Easy at the time of Jesus. Even if it was Jesus like those before Him were using the the saying to illustrate the difference in the size potential of something so small as a mustard seed, they used a food garden setting for the illustration because of the importance of the garden and it's familiarity with the people. You do your best (what little you have) to undermine the Christians here and you continually fail, seems to me you would get tired of being such a failure at this and just quit. But, then some will just never learn.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#35
RE: In the beginning....
(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: Guess what, you'll have the opportunity, to say this before God himself, yet you want be able to say anything because you will be astounded at Who He really is an you will realize you will not be able to spend an eternity with Him. 

Can we please forego with this nonsensical certitude. It's becoming tiresome. You do not "know" for a fact that god exists. You simply resort to wishful thinking, as does a child in relation to Santa Clause.

Do I "know" for a fact that god does not exist? The answer is no. The best answer I can provide is "I don't know" toward someone like you, because you seem incapable of understanding how millennia of zero evidence basically asserts non-existence.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#36
RE: In the beginning....
(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: Like I said I found all that on the net, what I did not find was that particular orchid being in the Middle Easy at the time of Jesus.

Yeah just like you're unable to research if Palestinians existed in 1st century AD and when Minimalist showed you, you pretended that post doesn't exist.

(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: You do your best (what little you have) to undermine the Christians here and you continually fail, seems to me you would get tired of being such a failure at this and just quit.

LOL! Christians don't need my help, especially with members like you, Christians undermine Christianity better then any outsider would do.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#37
RE: In the beginning....
(May 3, 2018 at 12:39 am)Kit Wrote:
(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: Guess what, you'll have the opportunity, to say this before God himself, yet you want be able to say anything because you will be astounded at Who He really is an you will realize you will not be able to spend an eternity with Him. 

Can we please forego with this nonsensical certitude.  It's becoming tiresome.  You do not "know" for a fact that god exists.  You simply resort to wishful thinking, as does a child in relation to Santa Clause.  

Do I "know" for a fact that god does not exist?  The answer is no.  The best answer I can provide is "I don't know" toward someone like you, because you seem incapable of understanding how millennia of zero evidence basically asserts non-existence.

 Yes I do know for a fact God exists, God's existence doesn't depend on your disbelief or my belief. I have a personal relationship with Him and He has as He promised proven Himself to me leaving no doubts. The Santa Clause analogy is a pitiful attempt at trying to dismiss God and involves no thinking through the matter on your part.  There is a ton of evidence for God, example the complexity of the honeybee and the hive.

GC

(May 3, 2018 at 1:09 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: Like I said I found all that on the net, what I did not find was that particular orchid being in the Middle Easy at the time of Jesus.

Yeah just like you're unable to research if Palestinians existed in 1st century AD and when Minimalist showed you, you pretended that post doesn't exist.

I do not bother myself with reading what Min has to say most of the time because of his belligerent attitude towards Christians that is unnecessary and childish a best, bigoted people deserve to be ignored. I ignore what racist have to say about people and I consider Min no better. As for saying Palestine did not exist during Jesus time is a flat out lie and you are becoming really good at this tactic and i'm getting tired of you lying about my comments to lift yourself up before those atheist that will listen to you and I hope they are few. I stated that the Palestinians did not exist till modern times. They are as I said in my post and only the stupid can't realize this. 

(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: You do your best (what little you have) to undermine the Christians here and you continually fail, seems to me you would get tired of being such a failure at this and just quit.

FM Wrote:LOL! Christians don't need my help, especially with members like you, Christians undermine Christianity better then any outsider would do.

 Again you are lying about what I said, I said nothing about Christianity, my statement was about Christians, you couldn't undermine anything about Christianity it is God's institution and He will protect it from the likes of you and even those Christians who should know better than make statements they do. I'm finished with this stupidity of your's come back as a civil human being and I will have discussions with you.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#38
RE: In the beginning....
Quote: Yeah just like you're unable to research if Palestinians existed in 1st century AD and when Minimalist showed you, you pretended that post doesn't exist.

He tries that all the time.  It happens when he has his head shoved up his ass all the time.  I guess that is his "safe space."
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#39
RE: In the beginning....
In the beginning did man come first or did man and woman come together?
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#40
RE: In the beginning....
(May 3, 2018 at 12:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: But, then some will just never learn.

GC

QFT.
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