(May 11, 2018 at 9:12 pm)possibletarian Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 8:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Romans 1:20-22 "20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"

Nice story, but why do you believe it ?

Faith and reason.  The good Lord also allowed me to find design in nature which is amazing.  I have a great appreciation for science; specifically, what we been discussing on here.  It is amazing that He allowed us to find a code buried deep in our DNA and actually have some understanding of how it works.  All of it is amazing to me.

Quote:Name 1 change of kind ever?  Not an adaptation but a change of kind.

Ah demanding i give an example to refute a made up creationist criteria .LOL 
That refutes itself really 

Quote:Yes, species do not change kinds.  Do you have evidence of species changing kinds?

Made up creationist terms . That refutes itself .

(May 11, 2018 at 9:14 pm)surreptitious57 Wrote:

CDF47 Wrote:I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine tuned universe

The Big Bang is evidence of the Big Bang not of God. If the Universe is fine tuned for life then what purpose does the weak nuclear force serve
given that it is not actually necessary for life to exist. Although the Universe is not actually fine tuned for life. Life is fine tuned for the Universe

The universe is fine-tuned for life. Who says there is no need for the weak nuclear force?

Quote:Faith and reason.  

Two terms that have no place together

(May 11, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:Faith and reason.  

Two terms that have no place together

Not when you have both.

Quote:The universe is fine-tuned for life.

No it's not

Quote: Who says there is no need for the weak nuclear force?

Who says there is a need for it ?

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(May 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Two terms that have no place together

Not when you have both.

No one is the opposite of the other .

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Quote:Dr. Steven C. Meyer,

Idiot 

Quote: Dr. Lawrence Krauss,

That's not what he means by nothing 

Quote: Stephen Hawking, and numerous others...., all thought the Big Bang came from a singularity.  Hawking's calculations showed space with infinite curvature at this point so at the point of 0 time there was 0 space.  How much matter and energy exists in 0 space?

Simply repeating an already refuted point will not help you .

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Quote:It never gets old bringing the truth to the blind.

To bad that all your really doing is repeating the same long refuted talking points . And failing to make them stick.

(May 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:The universe is fine-tuned for life.

No it's not

Quote: Who says there is no need for the weak nuclear force?

Who says there is a need for it ?

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(May 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not when you have both.

No one is the opposite of the other .

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Quote:Dr. Steven C. Meyer,

Idiot 

Quote: Dr. Lawrence Krauss,

That's not what he means by nothing 

Quote: Stephen Hawking, and numerous others...., all thought the Big Bang came from a singularity.  Hawking's calculations showed space with infinite curvature at this point so at the point of 0 time there was 0 space.  How much matter and energy exists in 0 space?

Simply repeating an already refuted point will not help you .

So you want me to believe now that there is no need for the weak nuclear force which is 1 of the 4 fundamental forces of the universe.  The weak force controls proton-proton fusion.  Without this, “essentially all the matter in the universe would have been burned to helium before the first galaxies” were formed.

(May 11, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 9:12 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Nice story, but why do you believe it ?

Faith and reason.  The good Lord also allowed me to find design in nature which is amazing.  I have a great appreciation for science; specifically, what we been discussing on here.  It is amazing that He allowed us to find a code buried deep in our DNA and actually have some understanding of how it works.  All of it is amazing to me.

Oh I don't doubt it's amazing to you, It's amazing to me too but for different reasons.

So when will god allow the scientific community in on this secret of design, that has been revealed to you but you cannot explain or is it just for you and a select few ?

(May 11, 2018 at 9:27 pm)possibletarian Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Faith and reason.  The good Lord also allowed me to find design in nature which is amazing.  I have a great appreciation for science; specifically, what we been discussing on here.  It is amazing that He allowed us to find a code buried deep in our DNA and actually have some understanding of how it works.  All of it is amazing to me.

Oh I don't doubt it's amazing to you, It's amazing to me too but for different reasons.

So when will god allow the scientific community in on this secret of design, that has been revealed to you but you cannot explain or is it just for you and a select few ?

It is for anyone who cares enough to get a basic understanding of how DNA works in the cell and how the universe is fine-tuned.

(May 11, 2018 at 9:30 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 9:27 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Oh I don't doubt it's amazing to you, It's amazing to me too but for different reasons.

So when will god allow the scientific community in on this secret of design, that has been revealed to you but you cannot explain or is it just for you and a select few ?

It is for anyone who cares enough to get a basic understanding of how DNA works in the cell and how the universe is fine-tuned.

So the scientific community involved in these area's don't have a basic understanding ?