Americans might remember when Trump said he could pardon himself?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...226a35bc91

Insane right?

Fast forward to today's Senate Judiciary hearing.

Senator Leahy, asked if a president should be able to pardon themselves.

Krapengaul dodged the question, basically saying our system has never had to address that before.

HOLY FUCK BRETT! What the hell is the point of having a congress at all? What the hell is the point of having impeachment at all? What the hell is the point in having an FBI or Department of Justice or AG? 

And that fucker after supporting real time review and investigation of Bill Clinton, is showing that he wants to be the one to anoint a king.

There is NO FUCKING WAY Brett would say "Sure" if Obama or Bill said the same thing Trump did.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/40516...mp-pardons

I am dead serious in saying that the GOP is fearful of change, and this is about for them, keeping power.

Kavanaugh is a fascist who will gladly follow Dear Leader over a cliff.

That much should be obvious by now.

(September 5, 2018 at 2:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Kavanaugh is a fascist who will gladly follow Dear Leader over a cliff.

That much should be obvious by now.

45 is behaving like one. I think conservatives outside congress even judges like him, wouldn't see themselves as such, but follow 45 because they see it as a path back to the good old days when white Christians controlled the driver's seat to the bus.

If you look at human behavior in our species history, the gatekeepers fear change, the majority in that society fears change.

That isn't an excuse, but an explanation.

The worst part for conservatives that they do not understand, when making the argument "Christian nation", just like Saudi Arabia and Iran, whom say "Muslim nation" Is that that seeming majority, if it gets what it wants, the powers will start going after even them.

Krapengual probably does not see himself as a fascist, but regardless, he is still being put into a position to potentially protect a despot wannabe because he panders to religious conservatives.

Still scary any way you want to argue it.

(September 5, 2018 at 12:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Americans might remember when Trump said he could pardon himself?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...226a35bc91

Insane right?

Fast forward to today's Senate Judiciary hearing.

Senator Leahy, asked if a president should be able to pardon themselves.

Krapengaul dodged the question, basically saying our system has never had to address that before.

HOLY FUCK BRETT! What the hell is the point of having a congress at all? What the hell is the point of having impeachment at all? What the hell is the point in having an FBI or Department of Justice or AG? 

And that fucker after supporting real time review and investigation of Bill Clinton, is showing that he wants to be the one to anoint a king.

There is NO FUCKING WAY Brett would say "Sure" if Obama or Bill said the same thing Trump did.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/40516...mp-pardons

I am dead serious in saying that the GOP is fearful of change, and this is about for them, keeping power.

There was someone explaining the other day, how technically the President can pardon himself, and that the DOJ is not in a position to prosecute the President, because he is the head of the DOJ. He couldn’t just fire anyone who isn’t seeking such.  However that is a separate matter Fromm impeachment’s, an fun incentive impeached, Ed can’t be prosecuted.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:08 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There was someone explaining the other day, how technically the President can pardon himself, and that the DOJ is not in a position to prosecute the President, because he is the head of the DOJ.

Sounds like an oversight problem that needs to be fixed.

The whole thing reminds me of this Canadian video classic:

(September 5, 2018 at 7:21 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 7:08 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There was someone explaining the other day, how technically the President can pardon himself, and that the DOJ is not in a position to prosecute the President, because he is the head of the DOJ.

Sounds like an oversight problem that needs to be fixed.

The whole thing reminds me of this Canadian video classic:

I agree somewhat; but in reality, it seems to be mostly a technicality. It would be political suicide to interfere with justice.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:21 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 7:08 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There was someone explaining the other day, how technically the President can pardon himself, and that the DOJ is not in a position to prosecute the President, because he is the head of the DOJ.

Sounds like an oversight problem that needs to be fixed.

The whole thing reminds me of this Canadian video classic:

Holy hell i have not seen that animation in years 

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Quote:I agree somewhat; but in reality, it seems to be mostly a technicality. It would be political suicide to interfere with justice.

The mere fact he's asking should be political suicide if not if not for the Trump cultists

(September 5, 2018 at 12:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am dead serious in saying that the GOP is fearful of change, and this is about for them, keeping power.

I can remember Dad being baffled at the fact that the Republicans in Congress were, to a one, fully supportive of Roy Moore after he was outed as a sexual predator. I found myself repeating O'Brien's words from 1984: "The sole object of power is power."

Literally everything the Republican Party has done since November 4, 2008 makes sense when you remember that idea, and without keeping it in mind, it looks like they were hijacked by fascists and libertarians hell-bent on driving them (and the rest of the country) off a cliff for no goddam reason.

That timeline may seem optimistic, but at least Dubya had some sort of ideals (bringing democracy to the Middle East being the most blatant one). Those ideals may have been impossible to implement, and even if they were impossible, they were Hell-bent on pursuing the worst possible methods (both constitutionally and practically), but they were still pursuing some sort of higher ideal, and if they weren't, they at least did a damn good job of acting like they were. Post-2008, they haven't even tried.

Wouldn't it be nice if presidents had little enough power it didn't matter who they were.

(September 5, 2018 at 8:25 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I agree somewhat; but in reality, it seems to be mostly a technicality. It would be political suicide to interfere with justice.

Then why does Trump keep doing it?

Boru