Hamzah ibn al Tayyar was reproducing some of the speeches of the father of Abu `Abd Allah (i.e. al-'Imam al-Baqir [A]) in his presence. When he reached a point the Imam (A) said: "Stop and be silent." Then he added, "When something comes to you that you don't know, your duty in such a case is nothing but to halt, to verify it and refer it to the Imam of guidance (a'immat al-huda), who will lead you to what is right, clarify that which was obscure for you and acquaint you with the truth therein. God Almighty has said:

`ask the family of the reminder, if you know not."' (16:43)

I made a video as to why it should be translated as the family of the reminder. That's it's true translation, regardless of what the dark magic tries to hide.

(October 25, 2018 at 10:30 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

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(October 24, 2018 at 11:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you keep doing this, MK?

Because I cling to hope.

Hope of what? Isolation, alienation, rejection, ridicule, loneliness, despair, ................ There is no magic cure in the Koran. 

Those are some of the things you'll face if you continue indulging your delusions. If you're not careful, you'll need to add incarceration and institutionalization to the list.

Hope someone will be guided. I clarified already.

(October 28, 2018 at 11:43 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I made a video as to why it should be translated as the family of the reminder. That's it's true translation, regardless of what the dark magic tries to hide.t

So all these scholars keen in Arabic are dark wizards?
Add to their voices me: a native Arab reading and speaking native Arabic, I'm also a dark magician who put a spell on the members here?

Look, there  are two possibilities:
1)You are sick
2)You lack morality to the degree of selling lies online, lying and abusing the limited knowledge of the crowd here to gain fame and to score points for the institution you serve.

I favor the latter option. Because I know that missionaries are full of shit. As full of shit as the Catholic church's missionaries who fool parents to sleep with their kids; raping the kids into "Jesus Christ".

But when did it happen? when did you agree to become a "cheap missionary internet warrior" for the Shiite institution?

You were caught forging translation, using the ignorance of your readers in the language..how many of yyour other posts contain forgery?
Oh I forgot..mental illness.

Nothing more funny than two gullible people arguing over the real meaning of a made up story, in front of a sceptical audience.

(October 28, 2018 at 2:17 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(October 28, 2018 at 11:43 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I made a video as to why it should be translated as the family of the reminder. That's it's true translation, regardless of what the dark magic tries to hide.t

So all these scholars keen in Arabic are dark wizards?
Add to their voices me: a native Arab reading and speaking native Arabic, I'm also a dark magician who put a spell on the members here?

Look, there  are two possibilities:
1)You are sick
2)You lack morality to the degree of selling lies online, lying and abusing the limited knowledge of the crowd here to gain fame and to score points for the institution you serve.

I favor the latter option. Because I know that missionaries are full of shit. As full of shit as the Catholic church's missionaries who fool parents to sleep with their kids; raping the kids into "Jesus Christ".

But when did it happen? when did you agree to become a "cheap missionary internet warrior" for the Shiite institution?

You were caught forging translation, using the ignorance of your readers in the language..how many of yyour other posts contain forgery?
Oh I forgot..mental illness.

The context, as well, as whole Quran, and many themes, all show it ought to be translated as family of the reminder. These scholars are anything but true scholars.

(October 28, 2018 at 2:26 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:
Nothing more funny than two gullible people arguing over the real meaning of a made up story, in front of a sceptical audience.

No you must understand by now:
1)Muslims are not one. They are of so many different types
2)The internet (and the world; TBH) is full of missionaries who are not ashamed of lying.
3)If you didn't pay attention, you might be reading wrong information, and you are what you read.

So instead of eating popcorn; learn. It worth it