Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.

[Minimalist]

I thought it was because he was a nutty muslim and it is what nutty muslims do.  Hey, it beats flying planes into buildings.  I have to give MK that much.

[no one]

LadyForCamus:
Why do you keep doing this, MK?

The Gentleman Bastard:
Because he's a spammer and it's what spammers do.

Isn't there some strict anti-pork stipulation in this magic contract between man and the almighty?

[Minimalist]

Yeah, probably because the Philistines who were Hellenic ate pork and the goat fucking...er herding...Judaeans wanted to feel superior!

[robvalue]

Can you really imagine a fucking "god" who would want to hear such repetitive shit day in and day out?

Sounds more like someone who is locked up in an asylum.

No need to imagine, I know a being who is worthy of Worship and loves to be known, relied on, and form a relationship through his chosen ones with his creation.

He is the best reliable support, and if we rely on others then him and seek their help rather then his in distress, we become worthy to be abandoned.

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Yes, you are right. He is beyond reach.

I might start a separate thread on this subject in general.

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@MK:You cling to hope of what?

To spark a light and that some people will not seek to put it out if reminded.

It would really help if you would answer more literally please, because such answers are very ambiguous.

You’re trying to get us to believe in god, or convert to Islam?

[Brian37]

Oh ok, well I’m glad to hear he is getting help. That’s all anyone can do. But you’re right, if he is resistant to receiving help, it’s going to diminish its effects.

This is all rather difficult. How should we respond to MK? In general, how should we respond to someone who we have reason to believe isn’t mentally well? I don’t mean to be patronising, but to ask a serious question. Do we:

1) Treat them as we would anyone else and hope that our points make some sort of impact?

2) Treat them with kid gloves, either in a more noncommittal way or even going along with what they say?

3) Not interact with them at all?

I honestly don’t know what would be most beneficial, from their point of view, or from a moral point of view.

PS: I appreciate MK is probably going to disagree with my assessment, and that there’s not an issue here. But I would be interested to know how he would theoretically think it is best to treat someone who is mentally unwell.

Everyone experiences mental illness differently. In my case, the demons and sorcerers did what they did,  to keep me from clarity and guidance, they did all to keep me away from Mohammad's family, the family of guidance.

And had I held on to God's rope from the onset, I would never been ill, and would be easily somewhere else right now.

And If I held on to God's rope earlier I would have long been cured.

They have failed and will continue to fail.

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Why do you keep doing this, MK?

Because I cling to hope.

Mystic, I suffer from anxiety and depression myself. Do not let my tough talk her fool you. 

It is OK to have these problems. What matters isn't that you have them, but how you address them. 

Religion does not answer psychological problems. It at best can only act as a crutch. But it isn't a good problem solver long term.

When I posted the Metallica song, sure it was sarcastic on my part. But the meaning of the song isn't to believe in evil spirits, but to face your fears and deal with them.

Thus the line,

"It's just the beast
Under your bed
In the closet 
IN YOUR HEAD"

The last line is the truth. Humans often let superstition scare them, when the truth is if you look under your bed, or in the closet, there are nothing but shadows someone falsely convinced you were real, and put those superstitions in your head.'

I used to fear God. I literally as a kid, used to look under my bed and in my closet at night trying to avoid that fictional evil spirit, monster, that never existed. 

MK, IT IS OK to have fears, it is ok to have depression and anxiety. I have those things too. It is not good to assign real mental health problems to fictional beings that do not exist.

[LadyForCamus]

Oh ok, well I’m glad to hear he is getting help. That’s all anyone can do. But you’re right, if he is resistant to receiving help, it’s going to diminish its effects.

This is all rather difficult. How should we respond to MK? In general, how should we respond to someone who we have reason to believe isn’t mentally well? I don’t mean to be patronising, but to ask a serious question. Do we:

1) Treat them as we would anyone else and hope that our points make some sort of impact?

2) Treat them with kid gloves, either in a more noncommittal way or even going along with what they say?

3) Not interact with them at all?

I honestly don’t know what would be most beneficial, from their point of view, or from a moral point of view.

PS: I appreciate MK is probably going to disagree with my assessment, and that there’s not an issue here. But I would be interested to know how he would theoretically think it is best to treat someone who is mentally unwell.

Everyone experiences mental illness differently. In my case, the demons and sorcerers did what they did,  to keep me from clarity and guidance, they did all to keep me away from Mohammad's family, the family of guidance.

And had I held on to God's rope from the onset, I would never been ill, and would be easily somewhere else right now.

And If I held on to God's rope earlier I would have long been cured.

They have failed and will continue to fail.

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Why do you keep doing this, MK?

Because I cling to hope.

If you have evidence and sound arguments you don’t need hope.

[no one]

LadyForCamus:
Why do you keep doing this, MK?

MysticKnight:
Because I cling to hope.



Is that what you named your goat? 
Seriously though, beastiality is for the dogs! 

[Minimalist]

[Aliza]

This prayer is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbC-eKRY6QY

Sounds like this involves me clicking and listening... and I'm not going to do that.

A big reason for not doing that is because in my short time on this forum, I've noticed that you reflect back no respect for the positions taken by the local atheists in this community. You don't internalize it, you don't seem to comprehend it, and you don't even seem to care.

So... why should I care what "prayers" you think are amazing? Chances are good you haven't given a second's consideration to what anyone here might think is amazing in the first place.

[Minimalist]

Sounds like this involves me clicking and listening... and I'm not going to do that.