(October 22, 2018 at 1:12 pm)wyzas Wrote: Insects have a short life span, could die naturally and supply protein. Other than being insects, would that be an option for ethical vegans? I guessing that the insects would be farmed so that violates the "live freely" constraint. 

It's an interesting thing to ponder. "Do insects feel pain?"

There is no way to know with certainty, but entomologists suspect that they might not. How did they come to this conclusion? Well, one way of gauging pain and suffering is to observe stimulus response. They conducted experiments where insects' legs were injured to see if the insect stopped using that particular appendage. With animals, when a particular leg is injured, the animal will stop using that particular appendage because using it results in pain. No such behavior was observed in insects.

Of course, there is no way we can conclude anything 100%. Maybe the insects are suffering tremendously but lack the necessary physiology to stop using the affected leg. But if insects do not feel pain or experience suffering, it would (in the view of some) be ethically permissible to harvest and eat them.

Quote:If it was an animal that lived freely and died through no human interference, then perhaps.

Uh, I think the term for that is "roadkill."

(October 22, 2018 at 1:29 pm)Fireball Wrote: The best-tasting bugs come from a Freightliner grill!

Peterbilt man. And you should know why without me telling you.

(October 22, 2018 at 5:14 pm)wyzas Wrote:

(October 22, 2018 at 1:29 pm)Fireball Wrote: The best-tasting bugs come from a Freightliner grill!

Peterbilt man. And you should know why without me telling you.

Sausages are grilled on the Peterbilt. Do try to keep it straight.

(October 22, 2018 at 7:19 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(October 22, 2018 at 5:14 pm)wyzas Wrote: Peterbilt man. And you should know why without me telling you.

Sausages are grilled on the Peterbilt. Do try to keep it straight.

I think that is with these.

Fucking vegans.

(October 22, 2018 at 1:06 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(October 22, 2018 at 12:36 pm)robvalue Wrote: I’m a fat weakling, but I probably would taste of tofu, yeah. I used to be bony and stringy when I was active and healthy.

My brother is a highly toned, strong vegan. I don’t know what he would taste like.

How are you around the ribs? Bacon?

Stodgy. My arse is pretty firm though.

Perhaps growing meat in lab is too much, rather it would be enough if they grew proteins in the lab, like whey, because then you could either eat it directly or use it as raw material and make meat like foods from it. Because what is meat if not proteins + fat (with some small amour of minerals)?

So make lab milk > whey > proteins.

(October 22, 2018 at 9:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Fucking vegans.

OM NOM nom, I love fiber!

(October 30, 2018 at 10:46 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(October 22, 2018 at 9:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Fucking vegans.

OM NOM nom, I love fiber!

So eat a coil of hemp rope.