(November 3, 2018 at 1:59 pm)Editz Wrote: The thought of an intelligent, or even supreme being, condemning sentient beings to eternal torture for something we have no control over (ei. whether we hold atheism/christianity/islam, to be true) is beneath contempt. /thread.

We put animals in cages and eat them. Why God should deny himself pleasure of abusing humans? If he exists like described in popular religion, we are doomed. But yet again, our courts, prison and farms aren't as insanely brutal as God's many years or 50k year torture.

Hell: invented merely to scare people into behaving.

(November 3, 2018 at 1:59 pm)Editz Wrote: The thought of an intelligent, or even supreme being, condemning sentient beings to eternal torture for something we have no control over (ei. whether we hold atheism/christianity/islam, to be true) is beneath contempt. /thread.

We don't have control over what our parents sell us, no. But if our species never questioned social norms our species never would have left the caves. Outside that, I do agree, an asshole who would torture someone for merely not being an ass kisser is a dick.

If you've spent anytime on a psych ward I think you'd admit that hell does exist for some people.

I think I need to clarify that I was only rotating thru.

(November 3, 2018 at 3:40 pm)wyzas Wrote: If you've spent anytime on a psych ward I think you'd admit that hell does exist for some people.

I think I need to clarify that I was only rotating thru.

Once.

And I escaped.


With minimal casualties.

(November 3, 2018 at 3:40 pm)wyzas Wrote: If you've spent anytime on a psych ward I think you'd admit that hell does exist for some people.

Figuratively, yeah that is apparent IME. That and awarenrss of suicide rate differentials in relation to the general public...

...but it's not the hell of theism.

Having an interesting time in our neighbourhood. diamonds and vomit. Please bear with me.

(November 3, 2018 at 10:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: Here I would like to start a discussion whether hell exist or not especially with Christians and Muslim which are so sure that hell exist.
Of course anybody who would like to intervene in the thread is welcome.
MK however would be the special guest.  

@LR: How much hell does a child rape/ murder victim have to suffer before the books are balanced? Hmmm, LR? Did you ever think of that?

I would like to start the discussion of whether or not I should purchase an electric coffee bean grinder. It just makes it so much fresher tasting! Christians, Muslims: thoughts?

The issue of hell is an interesting one. If such a place does exist I am morally obligated to go there in solidarity with anyone else imprisoned there.

Trust a god that would allow such a place to exist and not rescue people from it at the earliest opportunity? Can't bring myself to do it. Just can't trust or love such a being.