(November 6, 2018 at 5:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:Get rid of you bullshit notion that I don't value political pluralism.

How many republicans did you vote for?

Boru

Well, although I could not vote for Reagan, I would have back then, not now, and I did vote for Bush Sr. 

I know better now. To their credit, they were not bigots, but I see both of them as well intended pawns suckered by opportunists.

Ron Jr would argue the same. 

WHEN and if ever the republican party COLLECTIVELY  as a national party puts workers first, and skips the classism, racism, and blind loyalty crap of selling flags and guns and bibles, yea, I will certainly consider voting for them. But again, they are not the party of King, or Teddy or Lincoln.

I voted after work. Was going to go at lunch, but figured the line would be too long and I wouldn't get back in time for a meeting.

Sadly didn't get to vote out any local government thugs. One of which won last year by like 7 votes. And whom I can't wait to get rid of.

You people happy? This is the first time I have voted since 2004.

(November 6, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Kit Wrote: You people happy?  This is the first time I have voted since 2004.  

(November 6, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Kit Wrote: You people happy? This is the first time I have voted since 2004.

When it all goes to hell it's your fault.

(November 6, 2018 at 6:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When it all goes to hell it's your fault.

I know. It's always my fault.

(November 6, 2018 at 6:59 pm)Kit Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 6:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When it all goes to hell it's your fault.

I know. It's always my fault.

At least you accept culpability.

(November 6, 2018 at 6:59 pm)Kit Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 6:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When it all goes to hell it's your fault.

I know.  It's always my fault.

(November 6, 2018 at 5:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 5:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How many republicans did you vote for?

Boru

Well, although I could not vote for Reagan, I would have back then, not now, and I did vote for Bush Sr. 

I know better now. To their credit, they were not bigots, but I see both of them as well intended pawns suckered by opportunists.

Ron Jr would argue the same. 

WHEN and if ever the republican party COLLECTIVELY  as a national party puts workers first, and skips the classism, racism, and blind loyalty crap of selling flags and guns and bibles, yea, I will certainly consider voting for them. But again, they are not the party of King, or Teddy or Lincoln.

So, you have, by your own admission, voted for ONE republican.  That’s some pretty impressive pluralism.

Boru

(November 6, 2018 at 7:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 5:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Well, although I could not vote for Reagan, I would have back then, not now, and I did vote for Bush Sr. 

I know better now. To their credit, they were not bigots, but I see both of them as well intended pawns suckered by opportunists.

Ron Jr would argue the same. 

WHEN and if ever the republican party COLLECTIVELY  as a national party puts workers first, and skips the classism, racism, and blind loyalty crap of selling flags and guns and bibles, yea, I will certainly consider voting for them. But again, they are not the party of King, or Teddy or Lincoln.

So, you have, by your own admission, voted for ONE republican.  That’s some pretty impressive pluralism.

Boru

To be fair, at least in the eighties, the Republicans at least tried to look like they even had any moral common ground with the average voter.

I have never voted for a Republican, and, well, in the eight years before I finally cast my first ballot (for Barack Obama to win the primary in 2008), the Republican Party decided it was the party of sending us to war just to settle scores (and maybe some oil), turning America into a theocratic Hellhole, and not giving a shit about civil liberties. There was bugger all to recommend them. In the intervening decade, they've not only done nothing to rectify that (well, maybe with Trump, they're a bit less theocratic, perhaps), but they've pretty much openly become the party of racism, sexism, and general hostility towards anyone who isn't a rich white guy, when even during the Bush era, they at least tried to mask their bigotry.

Really, at this point, unless the Republicans became at the very least the party of Ike (I get that becoming the party of Lincoln or even Teddy Roosevelt is a lost cause), there's no way I'd consider voting for them. Even if the obnoxious "Social Justice Warrior" archetype that, admittedly, seems to largely exist on social media actually overtook the Democratic Party leadership and made the Democrats as obnoxious as the Republicans are now.