(November 17, 2018 at 12:01 pm)Kit Wrote: I wasn't aware that he was an actor.  I just think he has a hot body/face.

He's a Bollywood actor that most Indian girls (and closeted guys too, I assume) go nuts over. His acting is a complete turn-off. Ignorance is bliss though lol.

An invisible friend for alleged adults.

(November 17, 2018 at 10:31 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The one who gives everything it's reality, definition and form with relationship to the truth of his reality and is what guides it and has made everything speak.

There is no doubt to his existence in my mind or heart.

He is the one who illuminates all light and is the light of all light.

He is the one who hears and sees and who we exist through his perception, as such is with us all closer to us then all things.

He is the King by which morality exists through, the one to be obeyed in all that, and pleased in all that, and it's command and will that makes morality what it is.

He is the one who the path leads back to and calls to.

He is the endless sky that cannot be reached but we know exists through the path that points to Him.

He is the one who creates the stages by which we are distinguished in rank.

And he is the one who accounts every soul by what it has earned and were it not for his vision,  actions would not be part of who we are.

He is the absolute judge by which things are created in truth.

He is the one who if he can beget would have out of compassion, love and generosity, but is above that, and had decided to try his creation to see which one is best in action.

He is the one who is with us in our hardships, extends his rope to us, and will aide those who depend on him in ways they didn't ever imagine.

He is the one who is still to be found when the mind fractures and the soul has fallen out of realms of rationality and he is the one who will extend helpers and guides so that we remember him and remember to hold on to what is most important in such moments of despair.

He is the love by which all things were created through true fabrics of love, that connect us all through his guide of time.

He is the one who has illuminated all things through his name and is the light of his name and called and reminded through that guiding king.

He is the one to be lived for and who is the best reward and most everlasting investment we can have.

He is the one who tries us by good and evil, and to him is the return in all that.

He is the one who responds to prayers by those who connect to him through his names and reminders.

He is the one who calls his creation back to forgiveness and wishes to fix their corruption by repentance.

He is the one who believes in us even when we have despaired of him.

He is the Greatest, the Best, The Good Lord I put my trust on and see every day through vision he grants me though what is hidden behind the veils is much greater and what is treasured of his names much more sacred from that which he is uncovered from my sight.

You left out the part about him always needing money.

(November 17, 2018 at 6:25 am)Azu Wrote:

(November 17, 2018 at 5:58 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Mythical until proven otherwise.

Why is god mythical until proven otherwise?

Because the only place it appears is in a book of myths. If you believe otherwise, please present your testable, verifiable evidence and we'll have a look.

Don't hold your breath, G/B.

(November 17, 2018 at 11:21 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: -and if you pick into their "the universe itself" description..you'll find the assumption of every characteristic asserted in the definition provided.  The contention is that "the universe"..is, properly, all of the things attributed to gods.

If it were just the universe..they'd call it the universe..but they don't.  It's got that special something extra representative of the other set of things.

And it is arrayed in the most splendid clothing.  However only the elect can see it.  The rest just see the stuff we call the universe.

(November 17, 2018 at 5:41 am)Azu Wrote: What's your definition of god?

There's a lot about the universe -- reality -- that humans don't and probably can't comprehend.

The concept of God is a kind of place-holder for all that we can't understand. Therefore, any definition of God must be wrong, because it implies that we understand him.

In the Platonic tradition it is common to say that God is the Good. And there are arguments for this, as long as we are careful to specify that we don't really know what the Good is. (We only see it embodied in material things -- a good book, a good meal.) If we are satisfied saying only that God is the Good and that is enough, there is a danger of taking our defined concept of goodness and limiting God to that. But that would be a human limitation applied to an unlimited thing.

So the claim that because we have no clear definition there must not be a God, or because we can't specify exact attributes it is evidence that there is no God, is not tenable. This was all worked out in about the 4th century.

(November 17, 2018 at 6:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Don't hold your breath, G/B.

I'm not.

(November 17, 2018 at 5:47 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: You left out the part about him always needing money.

And also needing people to make war against those who defy his will. And also needing people to SPEAK for him rather than speak for himself (and then those people don't agree for... whatever reason.) And also....