(November 22, 2018 at 10:54 am)CDF47 Wrote: Peace on Earth is almost hard to imagine since it has been inundated with war from the beginning of time.  Peace would not be under any socialist or communist or fascist regimes.  It would be found under righteous leaders in the world.

Who would you consider to be righteous leaders in this world?

(November 22, 2018 at 11:04 am)Grandizer Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 10:54 am)CDF47 Wrote: Peace on Earth is almost hard to imagine since it has been inundated with war from the beginning of time.  Peace would not be under any socialist or communist or fascist regimes.  It would be found under righteous leaders in the world.

Who would you consider to be righteous leaders in this world?

lol.

(November 22, 2018 at 11:04 am)Grandizer Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 10:54 am)CDF47 Wrote: Peace on Earth is almost hard to imagine since it has been inundated with war from the beginning of time.  Peace would not be under any socialist or communist or fascist regimes.  It would be found under righteous leaders in the world.

Who would you consider to be righteous leaders in this world?

Exactly.  I doubt we ever see it. The Bible describes things getting worse in the end times, not better.

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Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving day today!

(November 22, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:05 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You know that he has a dick...right?

You talking about Jesus? Jesus was wonderful. A peaceful and positive man with an important message, who redeems those who want to be redeemed.

You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Jesus could have easily preached, "It is, and has always been, immoral to own another human being as property. He who does not turn his face against it is a coward, and he who would practice it is lower than a beast."

A wonderful person? Not hardly.

(November 22, 2018 at 11:19 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:15 am)Everena Wrote: You talking about Jesus? Jesus was wonderful. A peaceful and positive man with an important message, who redeems those who want to be redeemed.

You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Jesus could have easily preached, "It is, and has always been, immoral to own another human being as property. He who does not turn his face against it is a coward, and he who would practice it is lower than a beast."

A wonderful person? Not hardly.

His sermons on the evils of rape are also conspicuously absent from the record.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Odd. Didn't you say this...

(November 11, 2018 at 7:58 pm)Everena Wrote: I never said anything like that fool, and do not pretend you know what I think. You do not know one thing about me and I do not wish to converse with someone who makes up lies about me. Good bye

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I find it amusing how you continuously demonstrate your dishonesty.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: My dishonesty? I was not the one being dishonest. And you just proved my point.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Anyway, you claimed that your god was a ball of energy bigger than the earth. You also claimed that your god does not interact with this universe. Both of these cannot be true.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: I never said ball and they definitely can both be true.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Unless you are a liar, but we already knew that.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: You know nothing about anyone. You just make stuff up about people to fit some ridiculous stereotype you have in your head.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: Name one question that I could not directly handle. More lies. None of you can ever back up any of your lies about either one of us with anything. You are living in a false reality of lies.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: All of them, mine and everyone else's. You can't define your god nor what you actually believe without resorting to dishonesty and lies.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: Bullshit. You are just making stuff up so you are intentionally being vague. Be speciific

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: At this point your self contradictory statements are simply a matter of amusement for all. You are one of the best chew toys that has ever posted here.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: I have made no self contradictory statements. More lies.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: No, we both know that you are flat out wrong. "I respect Christianity and believe it may have been influenced by prophets of God and probably contains some the truth."
No you don't. You think you are right and they are all wrong. Even CDF thinks you are going to be damned for eternity in hell. So do the majority of the 93% you keep on citing. Many of them would happily kill you for heresy.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: What I believe is exactly what I stated and I already explained that much of what I believe is what Jesus taught and is in the Quran and is a core belief Hinduism etc. You just have no idea what you're even talking about.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: But we are the only ones laughing. And we are laughing because you keep wanting to pretend that what you believe makes sense. It doesn't. And we will have the last laugh, because we are right.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: CDF says you are wrong and are going to hell. Take it up with him. After all, you claim he is currently actually in hell. You cannot both be right but you can both be wrong.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: Now you are making up lies about him. He did not say that. He said God decides that kind of thing, not him.

(November 22, 2018 at 7:18 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Face it. You have swallowed a load of new age crap that you barely understand but which impressed you because it sounded impressive to you. News flash: This is not new to us and it is not impressive. Except possibly to mouth breathing knuckle draggers.

(November 21, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: I'm not part of the New Age movement, nor have I ever been. I have beliefs that are eclectic and so do they, and that is all I ever said about that. I was a church going Christian for many years, I just never believed that Jesus is God (and neither did Jesus Mark10:18) I decided what my beliefs were based on what would make this a fair and just world, not on what New Agers or anyone else thought. I did notice that the concept of Karma was a key part of every religion, so that reinforced my belief. And I know you are just trying to make fun of us in front of all your atheist friends. Try to be more accurate. No one likes to be lied about. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

(November 22, 2018 at 11:21 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 11:19 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Jesus could have easily preached, "It is, and has always been, immoral to own another human being as property. He who does not turn his face against it is a coward, and he who would practice it is lower than a beast."

A wonderful person? Not hardly.

His sermons on the evils of rape are also conspicuously absent from the record.

Not surprising when you consider that sexism was rampant in the Torah. Jesus stated that he had not come to destroy the Law, but to uphold the Law.

(November 22, 2018 at 11:21 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 11:19 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Jesus could have easily preached, "It is, and has always been, immoral to own another human being as property. He who does not turn his face against it is a coward, and he who would practice it is lower than a beast."

A wonderful person? Not hardly.

His sermons on the evils of rape are also conspicuously absent from the record.

The Lord is not silent on this matter.  See Deuteronomy 22:25 - 27, "But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her."

More information about rape in the Bible is below:

https://erlc.com/resource-library/articl...al-assault

(November 22, 2018 at 11:29 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 11:21 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: His sermons on the evils of rape are also conspicuously absent from the record.

Not surprising when you consider that sexism was rampant in the Torah. Jesus stated that he had not come to destroy the Law, but to uphold the Law.

What did you expect from a deranged megalomaniacal delusional opportunistic layabout who was mean to his own mother and who sought validation through a collection of dumb gullible groupies?

(November 22, 2018 at 1:18 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:19 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: So ... even if we honestly don't believe in Jesus, we're supposed to *say* we believe even if we don't ... and your god is SO stupid, he won't know the difference.
LOL

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That's odd ... and here I thought he redeemed the whole world.
Redemption was NEVER the role of a messiah.

No, you have to believe it in your heart when you say it.  That is even more important than physically saying it.

And that's precisely the point, isn't it. 
If one actually HONESTLY doesn't buy into religious nonsense, then, being honest, one can't say it. 
So according to you and your system, ... then, one is going to hell for being honest. 

It's just the biggest pile of horse shit imaginable.  
AND according to your system, it's YOUR GOD'S fault ...

"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, it is not from works, so that no-one may boast.
Ephesians 2:8