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US tourist enters tribal area in Andaman island, to preach Christianity, killed
RE: US tourist enters tribal area in Andaman island, to preach Christianity, killed
(November 23, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(November 23, 2018 at 2:33 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Blood carries diseases.

We can do better.

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An African tribe has a solution.

They entomb live trespasser inside a thick layers of clay, making sure the trespasser can still breath through straws stuck their nostrils.  They then slowly bake the clay until the clay turned to terra-cotta.
They display these man sized and roughly man shaped terra-cotta statues with the cooked victim still inside as warnings to trespassers.

Not a drop of blood is ever spilled.

Yep, all over the world human cruelty to others arises out of superstition, when bacteria outnumber humans and have been around far longer. Aren't we a cleaver species?

Epilepsy was commonly seen as demon possession.
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RE: US tourist enters tribal area in Andaman island, to preach Christianity, killed
(November 21, 2018 at 9:04 am)Reltzik Wrote: Yet another victim of bad ideas.

Bad ideas kill.

.... also, arrows kill, but bad ideas help set up the situation where arrows fly in the first place.

I'm sure ALL the conservative evangelicals who have been enthusiastically supporting closing the borders will completely agree with the islanders' actions based on shared principles.

Yes, indeed, bad ideas kill. As I put it, unfounded claims to truth, when acted upon, have consequences.

I take a very dim view of missionaries. And I have absolutely no sympathy for the guy. He was clearly in an area of the world where he had absolutely no business being in. As I look at it, the Sentinelese were only protecting themselves from outsiders. There is one less idiot in the world now. They want nothing to do with the outside world and their stinking religions.

From Wikipedia article on "Sentinelese":

Quote:"The Sentinelese, also known as the Sentineli and the North Sentinel Islanders, are an indigenous people who inhabit North Sentinel Island, located in the Bay of Bengal in India.[3][4] As North Sentinel Island is part of the Andaman Islands, the Sentinelese are considered to be one of the Andamanese peoples. They are designated as a Scheduled Tribe.[5]

An uncontacted people, the group, estimated to be composed of anywhere from 40 to 500 individuals, is believed to have lived on North Sentinel Island for as long as 55,000 years and speaks the Sentinelese language, a language isolate not related to the native languages found on the surrounding islands.[6][7][8] Indian authorities have put in place laws that prohibit any individual being closer than 3 miles (4.8 km) to the island, for both the protection of the inhabitants and the safety of outsiders, as the Sentinelese are known to be hostile to outsiders and have killed people who approached the island. Being an isolated group, they likely do not possess the genetic immunity to survive exposure to common viruses, such as influenza and measles.[6][9]

Unlike other ethnic groups found in the Andamanese Islands, who were more welcoming to outsiders and now interact with them somewhat regularly, the Sentinelese appear to have consistently refused any interaction with the outside world.[10][11] In November 2018, John Allen Chau, a 27-year-old American evangelist, was attacked and killed after he traveled illegally to North Sentinel island.[12]"

I personally think there should be an international ban on religious missionary efforts to "Stone Age" cultural level groups of people. There are so few of them remaining these days and they should be protected from numb nuts like Christians.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--Thomas Jefferson
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My favorite missionary joke.


Quote:A Catholic Priest was about to leave His Mission in the jungles where he has spent years teaching the natives when he realizes that the one thing he never taught them was how to speak English, so he takes the chief for a walk in the forest. He points to a tree and says to the chief, "This is a tree." The chief looks at the tree and grunts, "Tree."

The Priest pleased with the response. They walk a little farther and he points to a rock and says, "This is a rock Hearing this, the chief looks and grunts, "Rock." The Priest really getting enthusiastic about the results when he hears a rustling in the bushes. As he peeks over the top, he sees a couple of natives in the midst of heavy sexual activity. The priest is really flustered and quickly responds, "Riding a bike." The chief looks at the couple briefly, pulls out his blowgun and kills them.

The Priest goes ballistic and yells at the chief that he has spent years teaching the tribe how to be civilized and kind to each other, so how could he kill these people in cold blood that way?

The chief replied, "He riding My bike."
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Is it true Trump is trying to hire these islanders for the border patrol?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: US tourist enters tribal area in Andaman island, to preach Christianity, killed
(November 21, 2018 at 11:54 am)OakTree500 Wrote:
(November 21, 2018 at 11:38 am)Chad32 Wrote: You would expect him to do at least a little research, and find out they'd likely kill him if he went there. The fact that he kept walking as they were shooting at him tels us about his mental state.

From what I've read about him, he probably well knew what was "likely" to happen, but though because he would walk over all peaceful like, they'd welcome him with open arms.......and not spears/arrows and shit like that.

And if they were violent, then leetle bebe Jeebus would come down from heaven and magic the arrows away.

(November 21, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Cato Wrote: I'm skeptical of the missionary motivation for his attempt to visit the island.  Most of the reporting describes John Allen Chau as an adventure tourist.  Chau's Instagram profile contains the following:

"The 27-year-old described himself on Instagram as a “Wilderness EMT (Emergency Medical Technician), “PADI Advanced Open Water Diver”, “Outbound Collective Explorer” and a “Snakebite Survivor”."

Missions are typically sponsored by a church or other faith based organization, but I cannot find any reference to an organization claiming affiliation.  It's certainly possible that an organization would distance itself from someone that knowingly broke the law.  I also understand that he could potentially be an independent prosthelytizer, but his adventure tourism seems to be more prevalent in what's being reported about his internet presence.

As far as locals claiming he was out to preach, I think it's much more likely that Chau used that as an excuse while trying to convince locals to break the law.  Or the locals can simply be making it up to try to cover their own asses.  While reading through the reporting I was reminded of a young woman that blew through a stop sign at a 'T' intersection and ran into a house.  Although suspected of texting and not paying attention she claimed that she was praying with her eyes shut.  As OakTree already mentioned, the language barrier makes the missionary aspect of this a bit of a stretch to begin with.

His family thought he was off proselytising amongst the heathen.
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I just heard they are still making plans to recover the body.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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I changed my avatar in honour of his memory.

Smile

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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(November 24, 2018 at 3:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I changed my avatar in honour of his memory.

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Hilarious  Oh, damn I lol'd at that avatar!
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: US tourist enters tribal area in Andaman island, to preach Christianity, killed
(November 24, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Fireball Wrote:
(November 24, 2018 at 3:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I changed my avatar in honour of his memory.

Smile

Hilarious  Oh, damn I lol'd at that avatar!

I tried posting a gif of it but it's too big.

From a show called American Gods.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: US tourist enters tribal area in Andaman island, to preach Christianity, killed
(November 24, 2018 at 4:53 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Is it true Trump is trying to hire these islanders for the border patrol?

Nah, the heathens refuse to do nazi salutes.
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