Quote:Wow, are you super dumb. I corrected your spelling error. You will live through it somehow.

Attacking my spelling and my lack of English . Yup you got nothing .

Quote:And as for the lowlife, you have no clue what you're babbling on about as usual and stop stalking me.

Lol you respond to me yet somehow i'm stalking you and he's higher then you will ever be and again more predictable attacks on my spelling .......Yawn

Quote:I have posted nothing that was pseudoscience. What I posted is proven and corroborated science whether any of you like it or not.

Nope no matter how much you assert it does not make it true

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Quote:I don't have to tell myself anything. Produce what you are claiming I posted that was pseudoscience.

Yes you do and i don't need to prove to you that what you said was pseudoscience

Quote:Yes and everything he brings to light is true, even according to his own critics. Watch the video Bucky posted.

Repeating a falsehood does not make it any less false

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Quote:He has a Bachelors degree and a Masters degree in Earth science and his concentrations were in Evolutionary Biology and Paleomagnetism. He also has a doctorate degree in Law.

Which simply makes him a quack with degrees good thing since isn't about personalities and authority  

Quote:If you watch the haters video that Bucky posted, it is clear that every single thing Casey Lusky thinks should be taught in schools about evolution is 100% accurate and true. The hater just tried to make it sound like it was not that important. Teaching children the truth was not that important, that is. Watch it!!!

I did and he no such thing the "hater "absolutely eat him alive . Luskins a propagandist and nothing more .

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Quote:The vast majority of the species on earth do not ever need to eat meat and it has been argued that none really need meat. Nothing changes the fact that food even existing on this planet in any way to feed 6.5 million species on land and 2.2 million different species in the sea cannot be written off to luck or chance. You lose this argument hands down.

So more assertions

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Quote:You are just grasping for straws. Plants are not conscious life, and they do not suffer any pain. They are also very obviously here to feed all the conscious life on this planet. You just love to live in your pretend world. Well  go ahead, but you will still spend your entire life being wrong.

There you go again changing definitions when called out . You never said conscious life . You said herbivores don't kill anything . Since plants are alive they are clearly killing a living thing . That's just evil.

(November 26, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 9:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I believe there is micro-evolution, adaptation, mutations,..., but not in macro-evolution.  I do not believe a species can change kinds.

Then how do you account for the fact that we share 97% of our ERV with chimpanzees? ERV are Endogenous RetroViruses, viruses that inserted themselves into your DNA, got stuck there, and eventually were transmitted to the entire species. We share 97% of ours with the chimps, and that's the same virus in the same location with the same mutations and the same LTR "header" and "footer". Similarities of  ERV are also seen in other primates and more distantly related organisms, with decreasing similarity observed between more distantly related organisms.

This is precisely what the theory of common descent predicts. How do you account for it?

That 3% of our DNA  amounts to 330 million differences in DNA, and that is just what we know about so far. It only sounds small as a percentage and many have argued that it is the most important part of our DNA. Look at the millions of differences between a human and a chimp in regards to practically everything that matters about being human. We are worlds apart.

(November 26, 2018 at 10:57 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Plants are alive. Herbivores kill them to survive. This is needless death and suffering. That can only be explained by a malevolent deity.

You are just grasping for straws. Plants are not conscious life, and they do not suffer any pain.

Plants suffer distress when damaged. They don't suffer pain the way we do, but even singe-celled organisms suffer. Plunk an amoeba on a hotplate and it'll writhe in agony. Your lack of empathy is disturbing.

Regardless, all those carnivores out there eat animals that shriek and writhe I an agony that you can comprehend. They do this according to their instincts. They have no choice in the matter but to maim and kill and rend.

God is malevolent.

Quote:They are also very obviously here to feed all the conscious life on this planet.

All these plants exist just for you? Impressively self-centered.

Is God HyperMalevolent? Does God suffer from obligate hatred?

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(November 26, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Then how do you account for the fact that we share 97% of our ERV with chimpanzees? ERV are Endogenous RetroViruses, viruses that inserted themselves into your DNA, got stuck there, and eventually were transmitted to the entire species. We share 97% of ours with the chimps, and that's the same virus in the same location with the same mutations and the same LTR "header" and "footer". Similarities of  ERV are also seen in other primates and more distantly related organisms, with decreasing similarity observed between more distantly related organisms.

This is precisely what the theory of common descent predicts. How do you account for it?

That 3% of our DNA  amounts to 330 million differences in DNA, and that is just what we know about so far. It only sounds small as a percentage and many have argued that it is the most important part of our DNA. Look at the millions of differences between a human and a chimp in regards to practically everything that matters about being human. We are worlds apart.

I'm not talking about all your DNA, just the ERV. Try again while I laugh at you arguing against the other 97%.

Quote:That 3% of our DNA  amounts to 330 million differences in DNA, and that is just what we know about so far. It only sounds small as a percentage and many have argued that it is the most important part of our DNA. Look at the millions of differences between a human and a chimp in regards to practically everything that matters about being human. We are worlds apart.

Because it is a small amount and were far more similar then different . Were related get over it

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(November 26, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Plants suffer distress when damaged. They don't suffer pain the way we do, but even singe-celled organisms suffer. Plunk an amoeba on a hotplate and it'll writhe in agony. Your lack of empathy is disturbing.

Regardless, all those carnivores out there eat animals that shriek and writhe I an agony that you can comprehend. They do this according to their instincts. They have no choice in the matter but to maim and kill and rend.

God is malevolent.

Quote:They are also very obviously here to feed all the conscious life on this planet.

All these plants exist just for you? Impressively self-centered.

Is God HyperMalevolent? Does God suffer from obligate hatred?

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(November 26, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Everena Wrote: That 3% of our DNA  amounts to 330 million differences in DNA, and that is just what we know about so far. It only sounds small as a percentage and many have argued that it is the most important part of our DNA. Look at the millions of differences between a human and a chimp in regards to practically everything that matters about being human. We are worlds apart.

I'm not talking about all your DNA, just the ERV. Try again while I laugh at you arguing against the other 97%.

Denying the 97% that takes some hard denialism

Quote:The vast majority of the species on earth do not ever need to eat meat and it has been argued that none really need meat. Nothing changes the fact that food even existing on this planet in any way to feed 6.5 million species on land and 2.2 million different species in the sea cannot be written off to luck or chance. You lose this argument hands down.

Nice try idiot. That fact that there are ANY obligate carnivores refutes your crap. And the fact you have to keep  characterizing your total BS with "you lose hands down" demonstrates time and again you really are very insecure and don't buy your own garbage. If what you say is true, it would stand on it's own. You really are such a poor debater. You never even went to high school did you ? You are home schooled right ? Any First Year debater knows NOT to do what you do constantly.

BTW there are great well-known famines ... and your fool god did nothing, and the famines were not due to humans not sharing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)
So much for your tasty Plant Theory.

(November 26, 2018 at 11:03 pm)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:Wow, are you super dumb. I corrected your spelling error. You will live through it somehow.

Attacking my spelling  and my lack of English . Yup you got nothing .

Quote:And as for the lowlife, you have no clue what you're babbling on about as usual and stop stalking me.

Lol you respond to me yet somehow i'm stalking you and he's higher then you will ever be and again more predictable attacks on my spelling .......Yawn

Everena: It is than you will ever be, and like your opinion means anything to me. And I did not say you were stalking me.

Quote:I have posted nothing that was pseudoscience. What I posted is proven and corroborated science whether any of you like it or not.

Nope no matter how much you assert it

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Quote:I don't have to tell myself anything. Produce what you are claiming I posted that was pseudoscience.

Yes you do and i don't need to prove to you that what you said was pseudoscience

Everena: So you're admitting that you were lying about me. Shocking.

Quote:Yes and everything he brings to light is true, even according to his own critics. Watch the video Bucky posted.

Repeating a falsehood does not make it any less false

Everena: And more lying on your part. Name one thing he was wrong about. Tick tock.

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Quote:He has a Bachelors degree and a Masters degree in Earth science and his concentrations were in Evolutionary Biology and Paleomagnetism. He also has a doctorate degree in Law.

Which simply makes him a quack with degrees good thing since isn't about personalities and authority  

Everena: I'm sure he can spell "than" and "you're" and I am sure he is about a million times smarter than you are.

Quote:If you watch the haters video that Bucky posted, it is clear that every single thing Casey Lusky thinks should be taught in schools about evolution is 100% accurate and true. The hater just tried to make it sound like it was not that important. Teaching children the truth was not that important, that is. Watch it!!!

I did and he no such thing the "haters"(smart people) absolutely eat him alive . So Bucky's  video does not help you fool

Everena: Again, name one thing Casey Lusky was wrong about. Tick tock.

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Quote:The vast majority of the species on earth do not ever need to eat meat and it has been argued that none really need meat. Nothing changes the fact that food even existing on this planet in any way to feed 6.5 million species on land and 2.2 million different species in the sea cannot be written off to luck or chance. You lose this argument hands down.

So more lunacy

Everena: And by that you mean you don't want the truth staring you right in the face.

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Quote:You are just grasping for straws. Plants are not conscious life, and they do not suffer any pain. They are also very obviously here to feed all the conscious life on this planet. You just love to live in your pretend world. Well  go ahead, but you will still spend your entire life being wrong.

There you go again changing definitions when called out . You never said conscious life . You said herbivores don't kill anything . Since plants are alive  they are clearly killing a living thing . That's just evil.

Everena: You think so? Stop eating then.

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(November 26, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Plants suffer distress when damaged. They don't suffer pain the way we do, but even singe-celled organisms suffer. Plunk an amoeba on a hotplate and it'll writhe in agony. Your lack of empathy is disturbing.

Everena: Plants suffer? Bullshit lies. Lettuce and carrots and onions and avocados and oranges and apples and nuts and seeds and wheat and sugar cane and cocoa leaves and honey do not suffer, nor does any other plant. You are dishonest and uneducated. And an amoeba is not a plant, it is a parasite.

Regardless, all those carnivores out there eat animals that shriek and writhe I an agony that you can comprehend. They do this according to their instincts. They have no choice in the matter but to maim and kill and rend.

God is malevolent.
Everena: NOPE. People are malevolent

Quote:They are also very obviously here to feed all the conscious life on this planet.

All these plants exist just for you? Impressively self-centered.

Everena: Is that what I said? NO. More dishonesty

Is God HyperMalevolent? Does God suffer from obligate hatred?

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(November 26, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Everena Wrote: That 3% of our DNA  amounts to 330 million differences in DNA, and that is just what we know about so far. It only sounds small as a percentage and many have argued that it is the most important part of our DNA. Look at the millions of differences between a human and a chimp in regards to practically everything that matters about being human. We are worlds apart.

I'm not talking about all your DNA, just the ERV. Try again while I laugh at you arguing against the other 97%.

We share 60% of our DNA with a banana and 90% of our DNA with tiny mice. Does not mean we are them? No, it just means we are all made of similiar stuff. The differences that remain are quite obviously the only important differences.

Quote:It is than you will ever be, and like your opinion means anything to me.

I don't care you can play English teacher all day it does not refute my point and it's funny means nothing but you keep responding 

Quote:Everena: So you're admitting that you were lying about me. Shocking.

Nope that does not follow me telling you don't need to convince you of something is not an admission of something. Sorry try again . 

Quote:And more lying on your part. Name one thing he was wrong about. Tick tock.

I don't need to convince you u that the BS you spew is BS

Quote: I'm sure he can spell "than" and "you're" and I am sure he is about a million times smarter than you are.

I'm sure as a native English speaker he can too bad that has nothing to do with his quackery but nice red herring 

Quote: Again, name one thing Casey Lusky was wrong about. Tick tock.

I again don't need to convince you that the BS you spew is BS

Quote: And by that you mean you don't want the truth staring you right in the face.

Because it's not the truth 

Quote:You think so? Stop eating then.

If there is suppose to be a kind god it's evil if not it's simply nature

(November 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:I'm not talking about all your DNA, just the ERV. Try again while I laugh at you arguing against the other 97%.

Denying the 97% that takes some hard denialism

And is especially funny when she uses it after arguing that only 7% of the population are atheists.

Incidentally, that number smells fishy. I mean China, right? So I looked it up. According to the 2015 Gallup International Religiosity Index it's 11% confirmed atheists and another 22% not religious. 4% were DNR, so she can't claim more than 63% "on her side". Though a lot of that 63% would have her put to death in rather gruesome ways, so "on her side" might be stretching it.

Quote:We share 60% of our DNA with a banana and 90% of our DNA with tiny mice. Does not mean we are them? No, it just means we are all made of similiar stuff. The differences that remain are quite obviously the only important differences.

Holy hell the stupid

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(November 26, 2018 at 11:45 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Amarok Wrote: Denying the 97% that takes some hard denialism

And is especially funny when she uses it after arguing that only 7% of the population are atheists.

Incidentally, that number smells fishy. I mean China, right? So I looked it up. According to the 2015 Gallup International Religiosity Index it's 11% confirmed atheists and another 22% not religious. 4% were DNR, so she can't claim more than 63% "on her side". Though a lot of that 63% would have her put to death in rather gruesome ways, so "on her side" might be stretching it.

But Paleo you need to convince her that her assertions are  wrong .....Apparently 

Quote:That 3% of our DNA  amounts to 330 million differences in DNA, and that is just what we know about so far. It only sounds small as a percentage and many have argued that it is the most important part of our DNA. Look at the millions of differences between a human and a chimp in regards to practically everything that matters about being human. We are worlds apart.

That's eleven BILLION similarities snookums. 
Try harder, sweetie. You're losing badly.