Ringo Starr needs to get arrested asap...
Sick dirty fucker!

Quote:You come on like a dream, peaches and cream
Lips like strawberry wine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine
You're all ribbons and curls, ooh, what a girl
Eyes that sparkle and shine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine
You're my baby, you're my pet
We fell in love on the night we met
You touched my hand, my heart went pop
Ooh, when we kissed I could not stop
You walked out of my dreams and into my arms
Now you're my angel divine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine
You're my baby, you're my pet
We fell in love on the night we met
You touched my hand, my heart went pop
Ooh, when we kissed I could not stop
You walked out of my dreams, and into my car
Now you're my angel divine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and you're mine
You're sixteen, so beautiful, and you're mine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and you're mine
All mine, all mine, all mine
All mine, all mine, all mine

(December 2, 2018 at 7:35 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: You're right, Boru, I read the lyrics, not the article. Definitely changes my view a bit, but I still am okay with it not being played on a radio station.

Regardless of what it meant in the 30's, (and I agree it's much more innocuous now I know the meaning of "what's that in my drink?") I think the tone of the lyrics is still enough for it to be a retired song. I'm certainly not going to protest anything, but it is 2018, and I still think a song in which 98% of the context is gone from the zeitgeist and sounds like a woman repeatedly rebuffing a man can be removed from one radio station's playlist and we'll all be okay.

It’s more than just the drink. The ONLY objection the woman has to spending the night is how it will affect her reputation  -  what I’ve always heard is a woman actively looking for an excuse to sleep with this man.  

But if we start banning music based on interpretation or based on pressure from action groups, where does it stop? 

Boru

My two cents.

Shouldn't be banned.

The term 'banned' is just a click bait, though.

It was removed from the playlist of one radio station in Cleveland.

Again, I think we'll all be fine. The 3 of the 7 people who still listen to terrestrial radio in Cleveland complained and they just won't be playing it.

Spotify still has you covered.

Yeah, people always think it's about date rape drugs. It's totally not. "Say, what's in this drink?" was a common, cutesy way to say, "I'm being naughty. I'm going to blame the alcohol that I'm willingly drinking." He's not so much trying to coerce her, as it's playful banter that takes into account the expectations of the day. She's worried about what the neighbors would think, not that she doesn't want to spend the night with him. The call and response song ends with them singing it together, intimating that they've both come to decide to spend the night willingly together.

(December 2, 2018 at 8:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 7:35 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: You're right, Boru, I read the lyrics, not the article. Definitely changes my view a bit, but I still am okay with it not being played on a radio station.

Regardless of what it meant in the 30's, (and I agree it's much more innocuous now I know the meaning of "what's that in my drink?") I think the tone of the lyrics is still enough for it to be a retired song. I'm certainly not going to protest anything, but it is 2018, and I still think a song in which 98% of the context is gone from the zeitgeist and sounds like a woman repeatedly rebuffing a man can be removed from one radio station's playlist and we'll all be okay.

It’s more than just the drink. The ONLY objection the woman has to spending the night is how it will affect her reputation  -  what I’ve always heard is a woman actively looking for an excuse to sleep with this man.  

But if we start banning music based on interpretation or based on pressure from action groups, where does it stop? 

Boru

This. The guy who wrote it, wrote it specifically to sing with his wife at parties. What are the odds he wanted to sing a song about date raping his wife with drugs? Also, I'm pretty sure the roofie craze came much later.

Mozart's "The Marriage of Figaro" is about a noble trying to screw his wife's maid.  I suppose we need to ban that from the opera halls, too?

It wasn't banned it was removed by one radio station . Plus it was controversial well before now 

https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/12/1...e-romantic
Also goes into lyrics and analyse them

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(December 2, 2018 at 8:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Mozart's "The Marriage of Figaro" is about a noble trying to screw his wife's maid.  I suppose we need to ban that from the opera halls, too?

I don't remember the maid be forced though

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(December 2, 2018 at 8:22 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s more than just the drink. The ONLY objection the woman has to spending the night is how it will affect her reputation  -  what I’ve always heard is a woman actively looking for an excuse to sleep with this man.  

But if we start banning music based on interpretation or based on pressure from action groups, where does it stop? 

Boru

This. The guy who wrote it, wrote it specifically to sing with his wife at parties. What are the odds he wanted to sing a song about date raping his wife with drugs? Also, I'm pretty sure the roofie craze came much later.

I'm pretty sure that's what's critics are arguing

From the link:

Quote:Glenn Anderson, a host at the Star 102 station, blogged that although the song was written in a different era, the lyrics felt "manipulative and wrong".

"The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place."

It's not about the original meaning of a specific phrase in the lyrics. It's about the overall message of the song being contrary to what the MeToo movement is about and to the modern Christmas spirit.

It's a classic for sure, and you can freely listen to it online somewhere, no problem.

Did anyone else see that the station is promoting christmas concerts with Bob Seger and Bret Michaels?

Just sayin..............