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Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
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RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
December 5, 2018 at 9:20 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2018 at 9:22 am by Cherub786.)
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
December 5, 2018 at 9:52 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2018 at 10:04 am by WinterHold.)
(December 5, 2018 at 9:52 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(December 5, 2018 at 9:20 am)Cherub786 Wrote: Are you sure you're an Arab? the issue is not any translation but the question of who exactly are being addressed in the word minkum "from among you". In the commentary of Tabari is mentioned this: وقال آخرون بل الورود هو الدخول، ولكنه عنى الكفـار دون الـمؤمنـين. ذكر من قال ذلك حدثنا ابن الـمثنى، قال ثنا أبو داود، قال ثنا شعبة، قال أخبرنـي عبد الله بن السائب، عن رجل سمع ابن عبـاس يقرؤها { وَإنْ مِنْكُمْ إلاَّ وَارِدُها } يعنـي الكفـار، قال لا يردها مؤمن حدثنا مـحمد بن بشار، قال ثنا عبد الرحمن، قال ثنا عمرو بن الولـيد الشَّنِّـي، قال سمعت عكرمة يقول { وَإنْ مِنْكُمْ إلاَّ وَارِدُها } يعنـي الكفـار So these are two reports, one from Ibn Abbas and one from Ikrama that the addressees, those being addressed, are only unbelievers not believers. (December 5, 2018 at 9:52 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(December 5, 2018 at 9:36 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Yeah, right. You just oppose anyone who doesn't agree with your personally held Quran-only views. Go on, Atlass. Pull the other one. It's got bells on it. ![]() RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
December 5, 2018 at 10:39 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2018 at 10:45 am by WinterHold.)
Cherub786
Read my comment again; please. I said: https://atheistforums.org/thread-57604-p...pid1864452 Quote:Are you sure that you will be among the devout? you will approach hell, just like verse 71 of Sura 19 says. I mean it's a decree from God. This is the question. I'm waiting for your answer. Please focus, and don't let Jormungander's meme true. I'm not a lady though. (December 5, 2018 at 10:25 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(December 5, 2018 at 9:52 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's not me who treats religion as a personal possession. Yes, right ! I must oppose what I don't see right, I say why I hold the certain view; offer my evidence why I think so too. (December 5, 2018 at 10:39 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Cherub786 Yes, the phrase used is الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوا so anyone who is afraid of our God falls in that category. I certainly do. RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
December 5, 2018 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2018 at 10:52 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I love how the issue of whether or not a person is devout hinges on whether or not that person is a coward.
We've got a guy here trying to establish that he's going to go to the drunken sex park in the sky because he's a super yoooge pants-shitter.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Fear is not cowardice. Cowardice is lack of bravery. Fleeing from an uncaged lion isn't cowardice. As Mufasa said "being brave doesn't mean you go looking for trouble"
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