(December 28, 2018 at 9:39 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Sure, it's probably that...or, you know..you're just wrong..again.  

Clarke is his own terrible person with his own flaws.  It's not his association with some other dipshit that makes him a dipshit - he did that all by himself.

We all have flaws and we all have value.  Every human has potential to be something greater tomorrow than they are today.

Some of us go our whole lives without becoming traitorous pieces of shit, only the good lord knows how we manage, lol. The Huggster expressed more domestic concerns, but I see the two things as a bit of a piece, with that guy. Traitors gotta betray folks..it's just what they do.

(December 28, 2018 at 10:08 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Some of us go our whole lives without becoming traitorous pieces of shit, only the good lord knows how we manage, lol.  The Huggster expressed more domestic concerns, but I see it as a bit of a epice, with that guy.  Traitors gotta betray folks..it;s just what they do.

I can't say I like everybody, but I hope for the best for everybody.  Hopefully I'm no exception to others.

Under Clarke, Terrill White had the water to his cell shut off for six days and no drinking water was provided to him. He died and the coroner ruled it a homicide. In 2014 a woman who was shackled and in handcuffs for 21 hours while in labor and while hospitalized for post partum treatment. At least 40 women were shackled in this manner. In 2017 a federal jury awarded over 6 million dollars to a woman who accused a Milwaukee county jail guard of raping her at least five times while she was 19 and pregnant. In 2016 a mentally ill female inmate went into labor and her child was stillborn; she was denied prenatal medical treatment and received prenatal vitamins only once.

Source: Wikipedia

It is clear he does not run a tight ship when it comes to the jails he is responsible for. The policy of shackling all prisoners who are hospitalized, even women in labor, is something other states manage to do without and still chaos has not ensued in the ten states that forbid it. I would think 'law and order' includes abiding by the Constitution's proscription against cruel and unusual punishments.

(December 28, 2018 at 10:53 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Under Clarke, Terrill White had the water to his cell shut off for six days and no drinking water was provided to him. He died and the coroner ruled it a homicide. In 2014 a woman who was shackled and in handcuffs for 21 hours while in labor and while hospitalized for post partum treatment. At least 40 women were shackled in this manner. In 2017 a federal jury awarded over 6 million dollars to a woman who accused a Milwaukee county jail guard of raping her at least five times while she was 19 and pregnant. In 2016 a mentally ill female inmate went into labor and her child was stillborn; she was denied prenatal medical treatment and received prenatal vitamins only once.

Source: Wikipedia

It is clear he does not run a tight ship when it comes to the jails he is responsible for. The policy of shackling all prisoners who are hospitalized, even women in labor, is something other states manage to do without and still chaos has not ensued in the ten states that forbid it. I would think 'law and order' includes abiding by the Constitution's proscription against cruel and unusual punishments.

So it wasn't Clarke who did these things, but other people?

LOL, you know that the buck stops with the boss..right?  One wonders what redeeming quality there could be to a guy who's a bad person, bad at his job, and a bad citizen, all at once.

(December 28, 2018 at 11:19 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: LOL, you know that the buck stops with the boss..right?  One wonders what redeeming quality there could be to a guy who's a bad person, bad at his job, and a bad citizen, all at once.

Sometimes it's the boss.  Sometimes it's a disgruntled employee with a head problem.

If you see some wacko at McDonald's spit in your hamburger while the manager is in the lobby, how would you react?  Who would you blame?  Just curious.  I suppose some people would fuss at the manager.  Others would become assertive towards the employee.  Even others may appeal to someone else, or simply never come back.

You couldn't possibly be this dense....?

Are you actually asking me whether I would confront a restaraunt manager about having my food spit in? OFC I would.........what the actual fuck? It's his job to make sure people don't spit in my food, lol. Just like it's a sheriffs job to ensure his employees don't fucking torture and/or murder the people in his custody.

(December 28, 2018 at 11:29 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You couldn't possibly be this dense....?

Dense because I asked a question?

You're easily offended.

Base stupidity does get my goat, this is known.

But go ahead, tell me more about how the wonderful david clarke, sheriff of murder holes, uncle tom, and traitorous conspirator..is just being maligned on account of going full on MAGA*, lol.

* which would, OFC....in and of itself, justify calling the man an asshole.. he goes beyond the call of duty in earning that distinction.