(January 22, 2019 at 8:03 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:T0 Th3 M4X

Come on Bucky.  I think you're approaching the world record for refuting yourself with your own statements.  For someone who constantly states they're a "scientist", I would think that you would understand the importance of proper citations.  If someone claims something, then it's reasonable for them to share where they obtained their information, so someone else can come to that same conclusion, or even repeat the assertions in order to validate them.  If you think asking for citations is "whining", then congrats on calling every scientist out there a whiner.  In fact, you might as well call every professional out there who deals in literature a whiner, because we all depend on writing and receiving good citations.  That's one of the most important components to being scientific.  We can gain new knowledge based on what is already known.

Sorry gramps. Your dementia is showing. I never once said here I was a scientist. Not only do I not "constantly" do it, I never did it. 
You're in no position to be handing out advice on anything. 

I do get that since you have all day every day with nothing else to do, but troll here on the internet, from your nursing home, but really , 
you should ask your kids to find you a different home which has activities for the seniors.

Sure, whatever man.  Your sense of humor is uncanny.

BTW, how was school today?

(January 22, 2019 at 8:16 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 8:03 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Sorry gramps. Your dementia is showing. I never once said here I was a scientist. Not only do I not "constantly" do it, I never did it. 
You're in no position to be handing out advice on anything. 

I do get that since you have all day every day with nothing else to do, but troll here on the internet, from your nursing home, but really , 
you should ask your kids to find you a different home which has activities for the seniors.

Sure, whatever man.  Your sense of humor is uncanny.

BTW, how was school today?

That’s a big word. You are misusing it.

(January 22, 2019 at 9:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 8:16 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Sure, whatever man.  Your sense of humor is uncanny.

BTW, how was school today?

That’s a big word.   You are misusing it.

Of course I am. Why would I use it right?  How silly of me.

(January 22, 2019 at 5:41 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 21, 2019 at 3:21 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

So, just to clarify CDF47?

 Your position is that:

"Nothing could/can falsify I.D."  ?

No, that's a straw man.  My position is nothing can falsify the information bearing properties of DNA which clearly shows there is a Designer.

 Uhm... no.

My post was a question. To which, if you notice, you (CDF47) reply with exactly the words I posted and in the affirmative.

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(January 22, 2019 at 6:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 5:47 pm)no one Wrote: Except logic, right 47?

No, nothing can falsify it.

Which thence kind of shows where CDF47's mind is at in regards to thier even cursory understanding of anything scince related.

Sadly, this open and acknowledging comment leaves no room for doubt as to CDF47 complete lack of understanding on the conversation and the topic at hand.

Pretty sure the thread's main purpose is over now. CDF47 doesn't even understand the very basic tennent of which they're actually trying to make a point for.

All the very best CDF47.

(January 22, 2019 at 9:31 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 5:41 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, that's a straw man.  My position is nothing can falsify the information bearing properties of DNA which clearly shows there is a Designer.

 Uhm... no.

My post was a question. To which, if you notice, you (CDF47) reply with exactly the words I posted and in the affirmative.

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(January 22, 2019 at 6:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, nothing can falsify it.

Which thence kind of shows where CDF47's mind is at in regards to thier even cursory understanding of anything scince related.

Sadly, this open and acknowledging comment leaves no room for doubt as to CDF47 complete lack of understanding on the conversation and the topic at hand.

Pretty sure the thread's main purpose is over now. CDF47 doesn't even understand the very basic tennent of which they're actually trying to make a point for.

All the very best CDF47.

I think maybe you're both confusing each other.  He's suggesting something partially, but your conclusions are kinda "out there" too.

I don't want to speak for him, but looking at it based on what I know so far is him trying to say that the way DNA works as a code couldn't have happened without intelligent input.    In other words, the design of the code proves a Designer.

(January 22, 2019 at 9:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote: [quote pid='1879124' dateline='1548193299']
...Nothing can falsify...

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(January 22, 2019 at 6:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, nothing can falsify it.

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(January 22, 2019 at 10:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I think maybe you're both confusing each other.  He's suggesting something partially, but your conclusions are kinda "out there" too.

I don't want to speak for him, but looking at it based on what I know so far is him trying to say that the way DNA works as a code couldn't have happened without intelligent input.    In other words, the design of the code proves a Designer.

 

It's the "Nothing can falsify it" bit where CDF47 jumps the shark, M4X.
Though bravo for padding up and stepping onto the crease for CDF47.
Rather sad that he's already swung his bat back through the stumps.
Still... we'll see how long the thread continues to run.

(January 22, 2019 at 6:54 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 6:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, nothing can falsify it.

The definition of a legitimate hypothesis is it can be falsified.  Only bullshit dependent on avoiding examination that either are, or are asserted to be, unfalsifiable.  your unfalsifiable bull shit is so contemptible it is dismissed by any scientifically minded as “not even wrong”.    Being wrong can still be educational.  Your bulkshit does not have even that the absolute least of redeeming qualities that any theory that is actually wrong would still possess.

There is probably right, probably wrong, and there is utterworthlessness known as “not even wrong”.

What's the problem now??  There are some absolute truths and laws of this universe you do realize?

@T0 Th3 M4X

Stating the current scientific consensus on some subject is not ‘making a claim.’ It’s simply an acknowledgement of a scientific fact. The claim, (hypothesis) has already been thoroughly tested by the scientific community, and elevated to the status of a fact, or a theory, if you’re talking about evolution. Respectfully, no one here is obligated to provide you with an education, and the weight of the work done on evolutionary theory does not rest on the backs of a couple of members on an internet forum. We use science because it works! Every time you get in your car, turn on your phone, take a pill, or eat a meal, you are relying on the efficacy of scientific inquiry. To deny it in one subject, when you accept it in every other aspect of your life, seems dishonest. And, I don’t want to think that of you.

OTOH, CDF is making a claim that goes against the scientific consensus; that humans are designed, rather than evolved. 1. He bears the burden of proof in this argument. 2. Attempting to poke holes in evolution does not constitute a positive case for design.

(January 22, 2019 at 9:31 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 5:41 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, that's a straw man.  My position is nothing can falsify the information bearing properties of DNA which clearly shows there is a Designer.

 Uhm... no.

My post was a question. To which, if you notice, you (CDF47) reply with exactly the words I posted and in the affirmative.

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(January 22, 2019 at 6:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, nothing can falsify it.

Which thence kind of shows where CDF47's mind is at in regards to thier even cursory understanding of anything scince related.

Sadly, this open and acknowledging comment leaves no room for doubt as to CDF47 complete lack of understanding on the conversation and the topic at hand.

Pretty sure the thread's main purpose is over now. CDF47 doesn't even understand the very basic tennent of which they're actually trying to make a point for.

All the very best CDF47.

I did not use your exact words.  What are you talking about.  I had to re-phrase the entire thing to make it accurate.  

And, yes, I do understand the conversation and topic at hand.

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(January 22, 2019 at 10:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 9:31 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:  Uhm... no.

My post was a question. To which, if you notice, you (CDF47) reply with exactly the words I posted and in the affirmative.

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Which thence kind of shows where CDF47's mind is at in regards to thier even cursory understanding of anything scince related.

Sadly, this open and acknowledging comment leaves no room for doubt as to CDF47 complete lack of understanding on the conversation and the topic at hand.

Pretty sure the thread's main purpose is over now. CDF47 doesn't even understand the very basic tennent of which they're actually trying to make a point for.

All the very best CDF47.

I think maybe you're both confusing each other.  He's suggesting something partially, but your conclusions are kinda "out there" too.

I don't want to speak for him, but looking at it based on what I know so far is him trying to say that the way DNA works as a code couldn't have happened without intelligent input.    In other words, the design of the code proves a Designer.

Yes, no where in there do I mention the Intelligent Design movement.  My point is on DNA.

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(January 22, 2019 at 10:33 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(January 22, 2019 at 9:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote: [quote pid='1879124' dateline='1548193299']
...Nothing can falsify...

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(January 22, 2019 at 6:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, nothing can falsify it.

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(January 22, 2019 at 10:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I think maybe you're both confusing each other.  He's suggesting something partially, but your conclusions are kinda "out there" too.

I don't want to speak for him, but looking at it based on what I know so far is him trying to say that the way DNA works as a code couldn't have happened without intelligent input.    In other words, the design of the code proves a Designer.

 

It's the "Nothing can falsify it" bit where CDF47 jumps the shark, M4X.
Though bravo for padding up and stepping onto the crease for CDF47.
Rather sad that he's already swung his bat back through the stumps.
Still... we'll see how long the thread continues to run.
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I say in the OP that it is proven so this nothing new where I state nothing can falsify it.

(January 22, 2019 at 11:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: What's the problem now??  There are some absolute truths and laws of this universe you do realize?

Your first sentence caused my eyebrows to shoot up to the top of my head by seeming to imply that, inspite of your behavior thus far, there might actually exist an infinitesimal possibility that you can be taught.

Then the second sentence set me right again.