Sorry, tired of all the excuses, and selfishness and fear peddling. NOT SORRY. I am sick of seeing stories like this in the news, not just mass shootings.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-deput...randmother

Maybe if the kids had their own firearms to defend themselves.

what the problem is?

I see two kids who drove their mother to kill her self and then the grandmother to kill them and try and to kill her self.
OR
Would you rather see this woman try and drive her car into the ocean with the kids in the trunk? what if she poisoned them? would that be ok? because what it looks like to me is that you only have a problem with them being shot as apposed to an evil or sick woman murdering two troubled kids!!!

You blind people want so badly identify evil in your world but you assign to the tools and object of murder rather than the person. you are so worried about being judged you are willing to forgo common sense and reality in favor of blaming or assigning evil to objects in this case guns..

There is evil here but it does not come in the shape of a gun, because gun or no gun this woman was killing those kids at some point. The gun did not make her kill therefore the gun in netural, it is a tool like any other it is subject to the will and use of it's owner. the gun could have been used to protect and defend or it can be used to assult and murder. the intent is not with the gun but the evil in the heart of the owner.

That is something none of you gun haters want to admit. because if we aggressively ban evil as we do guns, most of you are sunk.. So your response? ban the tools of 'evil' as if they where the problem.. the problem with that is vil always finds a way.

(April 8, 2019 at 11:32 am)Drich Wrote: what the problem is?

I see two kids who drove their mother to kill her self and then the grandmother to kill them and try and to kill her self.
OR
Would you rather see this woman try and drive her car into the ocean with the kids in the trunk? what if she poisoned them? would that be ok? because what it looks like to me is that you only have a problem with them being shot as apposed to an evil or sick woman murdering two troubled kids!!!

You blind people want so badly identify evil in your world but you assign to the tools and object of murder rather than the person. you are so worried about being judged you are willing to forgo common sense and reality in favor of blaming or assigning evil to objects in this case guns..

There is evil here but it does not come in the shape of a gun, because gun or no gun this woman was killing those kids at some point. The gun did not make her kill therefore the gun in netural, it is a tool like any other it is subject to the will and use of it's owner. the gun could have been used to protect and defend or it can be used to assult and murder. the intent is not with the gun but the evil in the heart of the owner.

That is something none of you gun haters want to admit. because if we aggressively ban evil as we do guns, most of you are sunk.. So your response? ban the tools of 'evil' as if they where the problem.. the problem with that is vil always finds a way.

I do not hate objects, that is simply bullshit.

I do hate attitudes about objects. A Koran is an object as well. It cannot jump up on it's own and murder you or me. But there are people who do pick it up and read it and use it to justify harm to others.

I hate your attitude in ignoring a very real problem of access to those objects.

You tell me where those murdered kids rights were? If we armed them they'd been able to defend themselves. That is how fucked up your logic is. Humans have rights, objects do not, objects are not living humans.

(April 8, 2019 at 11:36 am)Brian37 Wrote: I do not hate objects, that is simply bullshit.

then why only identify the evil in the method in which the kids where killed?why not the evil/broken woman or even the kids who drove a mother to suicide and a grandmother to a double murder suicide? why is the disgust centered on the object?

Quote:I do hate attitudes about objects. A Koran is an object as well. It cannot jump up on it's own and murder you or me. But there are people who do pick it up and read it and use it to justify harm to others.

and on the other hand it can be used to inspire a quite life and coexistence. it just depends on the heart of the person using this tool which again points to the evil in people not the objects. just like the bible was used to justify inquisitions and crusades it can also be used to

Quote:I hate your attitude in ignoring a very real problem of access to those objects.

I have not ignored anything unlike yourself, that is why I identify the problem as a evil person problem rather than attributing evil to an object. meaning if a evil person does not have a gun it will find poison it will put kids in a trunk of a car (that happened) and drive it into the ocean it will drown kids it will poison them cut their throats while they sleep.. Evil does not need a specific tool. evil will prevail no matter what is available so long as the person is motivated enough.

On the other hand a gun is completely inert with out a person and their intentions evil or good. to direct it! the gun is not the issue evil is. keeping evil people from guns should be your focus. but that would require a standard of 'morality' a bit higher than what the current pop culture will allow. which challanges your core values to be over hauled..

So put a bandaid on it and call guns evil rather than identify evil in people.

the only thing laws against guns do is keep law abiding people from Guns. and even if all guns where gone evil would still see just as many dead with or with the gun... or do you not know history well enough to know life/murder was far more prevalent in human society before guns where invented? that wars and skirmishes till took place than sick or evil people still killed kids?!?!

Quote:You tell me where those murdered kids rights were?

they are the same as anyone else subject to evil.

Quote:If we armed them they'd been able to defend themselves. That is how fucked up your logic is. Humans have rights, objects do not, objects are not living humans.

hey dumbass. settle your self for a moment wrangle your emotion and give this a thought or two first..

IDK with you guys either you never had kids or never had a bad one. but these two drove their mother to suicide.. you can say she may have been mentally defective as per her mother's actions/the grandmother... but then so too would the kids also be effected./not normal. Then even if the grandmother was broken mentally they pushed her to kill them and try and kill her self. Now say what you will about the old woman, but in the end she did to manage a pretty full life without killing herself or anyone else before these kids. also note they where the only variable that pushed granny into a murderous rage.

HOLY SHIT, they are kids. The ADULTS are responsible in every case.

I pissed off my parents as a kid, that still would not give them the right to murder me.

You are not doing anything but protecting  A FUCKING NON LIVING OBJECT.

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And again asshole, please tell me where MY RIGHTS were, when my DAD, who legally bought his firearm GOT DRUNK and put my life in danger?

^^^^^^^^

Daddy issues.. Who'd guess?


(Everybody?)

Sing us a song
You're the Ammo man
Sing us a song tonight
We're all in the mood for a massacre 
And you'd defend the NRA all night

Rat a tat tat, a tat tat
Rat a tat tat a  tat
Stop worshiping objects
Stop being a fucking brat

And...cue the superhero...Briansaver...

(April 8, 2019 at 4:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: And...cue the superhero...Briansaver...

He gotta sharethe spotlight with lizard boy?


Which one is the girl in that marriage?

(April 8, 2019 at 4:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: And...cue the superhero...Briansaver...

Yes I am Superman, and meanwhile outside your staring at my finger 100 of our fellow citizens die from firearm violence on average per day.

Nice priorities. FYI pointing out reality does not mean I am claiming to be a super hero.

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FYI I am no hero. You know who are. The PM of New Zealand. There is a lady, and a country with their shit together.