What has "slave" to do with what i wrote and the fact that you were 100% called out and figured out?
Right, ab-so-fucking-lutely-nothing.
Oh, your big letters are impressive....not.

Drich, we cannot dumb it down any further for you than this.

That was then, this is now. The humans that wrote and sold that mythology back then didn't know any better. Just like the Ancient Egyptians could not have known that the sun was not pulled across the sky by a God named Ra.

You do not get to blame us for questioning the mythology written in antiquity that we were not around to write or sell.

(July 31, 2019 at 12:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 31, 2019 at 12:22 pm)Drich Wrote: indeed. So what do you think was the reason 2/3 of the christians leaving here was all about if not a suspension of logic and a declaration of all out war on them via personal attack?

Go back and read my initial thread "so what happened"? This demonstrates logic has been suspended for a personal war waged often time by multiple atheist bullies against one christian and it does not matter who that christian was/is they are personally and verbally brutalized till they want nothing to do with theis website anymore.

My call to a terms was an attempt to bring the more logical to terms or open their eyes to what they have become. Right now a it sits I am more aligned with scientific fact and logic than any of the ad hoc responders that I have been bombarded by.


agree.
fine sentiment... show me the last time logic and reason was employed to do what you have described here... These are all great talking points but it does not seem that you all know how to apply them as far as I and those who were chased out have seen.

what about catholic lady neo scholastic A-theist or any of the others that are gone because of the lack of the respect you would offer strangers. There was a bevy of topic these guys would get into and it always seemed to end the same way.

That's funny I see almost all of you like lost brothers, and would do anything in my power to help you find your way home. yes I get angry but that never lasts beyond the paragraph i responded to.

Rights... are an illusion, they are the chains that bind you to a specific society. You talk about rights, when there is freedom to be had. Slaves had rights in mst instances. Dogs have rights. prisoners have rights.. Men and women alike where made free by God. yet we elect to bind ourselves with morality and 'rights' to serve society as if we where it's slave.

Thanks but no thanks I think i will stick the freedom found in God.

again this whole last thread was about "You good people" ignoring proven scientific data in favor for the faith you had in what you wanted to believe.

So don't pretend to presume you have a lock on facts and are not as corrupt by faith as the religious. The fact that the discussion whether they be religious or even political has devolved into a who is the loudest hater contest proves facts are taking a back burner with most of you all.

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"Faith" and "belief" are matters of opinion.

Facts however, don't give a shit what your opinion is.

If "faith" and "belief" constituted fact then Allah, and Yahweh, Buddha, Vishnu and Thor would all be true claims all at the same time.

kinda like how my argument with the PMM went and every single one of you who brought up a technical argument or an ad hoc argument did not realize you where arguing known science/in use current technology. That when you all posted what you felt was the reason my machine failed, it was wrong because again via the links and citation I posted connected my idea with current science and known inuse technology?

IE all of the arguments about taking too much heat out of the earth all of the arguments about the expenditure of fuel all of the heat exchanger argument and yes even the argument about my machine breaking the 2nd law of TD was all wrong, yet two members are still repeating them because they still are arguing their faith in themselves as being smarter than my documented facts. simply because i posted and represent them. Neil degrasse tyson told them the same thing i said in the same way they would yield to that man's explanation without citation or demand for proof. why? because they have faith in him and his work.

Again you all have faith it just manifest it in a different way. Your faith is in people which is why the effort is so large here to destroy a persons character or so quick to label a christian stupid.. that way it allows you to ignore fact and reason because a stupid person could not ever be smart enough to represent real fact and reason.

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(July 31, 2019 at 12:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Back to being wrong about perpetual motion machines, then.  Keep fucking that chicken, I guess?

how so?

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(July 31, 2019 at 1:10 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 31, 2019 at 12:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: "Faith" and "belief" are matters of opinion.

Facts however, don't give a shit what your opinion is.

If "faith" and "belief" constituted fact then Allah, and Yahweh, Buddha, Vishnu and Thor would all be true claims all at the same time.

kinda like how my argument with the PMM went and every single one of you who brought up a technical argument or an ad hoc argument did not realize you where arguing known science/in use current technology. That when you all posted what you felt was the reason my machine failed, it was wrong because again via the links and citation I posted connected my idea with current science and known inuse technology?

IE all of the arguments about taking too much heat out of the earth all of the arguments about the expenditure of fuel all of the heat exchanger argument and yes even the argument about my machine breaking the 2nd law of TD was all wrong, yet two members are still repeating them because they still are arguing their faith in themselves as being smarter than my documented facts. simply because i posted and represent them. Neil degrasse tyson told them the same thing i said in the same way they would yield to that man's explanation without citation or demand for proof. why? because they have faith in him and his work.

Again you all have faith it just manifest it in a different way. Your faith is in people which is why the effort is so large here to destroy a persons character or so quick to label a christian stupid.. that way it allows you to ignore fact and reason because a stupid person could not ever be smart enough to represent real fact and reason.

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(July 31, 2019 at 12:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Back to being wrong about perpetual motion machines, then.  Keep fucking that chicken, I guess?

how so?

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I have no "faith" in people. I have knowledge that my fellow humans are BOTH capable of cruelty and compassion. Both of those behaviors are observable. I would prefer my fellow humans lean to compassion, but on a planet of 7 billion, that will never be a perfect utopia. 

Your "faith" is the argument that you got it right, and if all 7 billion of the rest of us just accepted your bullshit, the world would be a utopia. Problem with religion is that everyone of every religion claims they got it right.

I know my species is perfectly capable of compassion and non violence. I also know we don't always do that. 

I simply do not assign anything humans do good or do bad to old mythology.

Religions, of all labels, teach their respective followers to defend the label,  which is fucking absurd to me. All 7 billion of us are humans. And every nation, both friend and foe alike have hospitals and prisons.

You don't suffer from learning disability to anything near the degree to which you suffer from delusions of adequacy, Drich

None of those people are in your company, Drich, because none of them suffers from your particular combination of unwillingness to learn and delusions about what you can know without seriously learning.

(July 31, 2019 at 10:38 am)Mathilda Wrote: What exactly do you mean by catch up? Why assume that no one knew about this until now?

You're just blathering now, back-peddling and trying to hide your ignorance by nit-picking definitions like a typical Xtian.

As I have repeatedly said throughout your multiple threads, we've been deliberately trying to keep it simple because none of us have any confidence in your ability to understand this.

Not because it's difficult but because of your arrogance and inability to admit when you're wrong.

I am not real sure we can blame the ignorance, back-peddling, and nit-picking on Drich claiming to be a Christian.  

2 days since I asked Drich to show me any rule on the forum prohibiting me from sharing my faith.

Granted I wasn't expecting him to. I do feel for Drippy, It must be tiring to fail so frequently.

You can stop counting now, Drich.  You've already failed.

Boru

(July 31, 2019 at 1:51 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: You don't suffer from learning disability to anything near the degree to which you suffer from delusions of adequacy, Drich

None of those people are in your company, Drich, because none of them suffers from your particular combination of unwillingness to learn and delusions about what you can know without seriously learning.

what is the purpose of academic learning for you?

Mine?

To make enough to have the things i want to have enough left over to share and maybe even make enough to put a dozen or so people to work making a big enough wage to all own their own homes and drive decent cars and trucks and still have money to do things. that and time i want to have time to pursue my other interests. like this for instance. I can sometimes spend 8 or more hours doing this or researching for this in the middle of the day. pretty much 5 days a week. for the last idk 10 years give or take. (march 2008) I do take time for big projects, for example when they sent me to nyc to put that whole electric refrigeration system together I took a few months off even though the work only took a week and a half. or if a new design request comes in today i might take a day or two here and there but for the most part I am here every day.. Now either I am homeless typing on a phone camped out in front of a library or somewhere with free wifi, in my moms basement or in my main design/formal office suite, my shop office where i supervise and over see project builds, (in a 10,000 square foot air conditioned factory assembly plant)  or my sales lot office (second location in another city)..

Now forgive me if i do not meet your ideal version of being successful, but to me this is all I want. the only thing better would be to consolidate everything under one roof and one company name in a bigger facility it will double our air conditioned work space and triple our parking and we will have all of the formal conference rooms and formal offices in one central place in the nice part of one of the nicer counties in fl. which is on deck for the end of the year.
(not an ounce of BS in any of that, and I double dog dare any of you to stop by one day and check it out for your self)
Matter of fact we are launching a new website and are having some people come in and make a little TV commercial for the website in the coming months. (shop looks destroyed at the moment as we are in full production mode trucks and piles of parts and material everywhere.) but maybe the bosses will let me share the link if I grease some wheels

To me this is why one goes to school. to compete and build your own dream. Not to meet someone's arbertairy standard. nor to be forced to think a certain way. If i thought like every one else I could not identify ways to out perform everyone else. school/education is or should be only a lesson in how to best learn for yourself and check your own work. to help you master you skill or gift, and help you select others to shore up your shortcomings.

If you have not figured it out yet, you will. you seem like a smart enough guy. I am not what you guys pretend I am. most of you only do so, so you do ot feel you have to reconcile what i say with your own world views. The reason i teach the reason i speak as if I got stuff figured out is because i have, and not only that i have in such a way as for everyone to do it their own way and it just be as valid, and as with always I have this documented with experience and credible source material. But again It will be a while before any of our conversations will get to that point because you still can't move past the idea that I am anything more than what you paint me to be so you do not have to listen to anything I say.

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(July 31, 2019 at 1:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(July 31, 2019 at 10:38 am)Mathilda Wrote: What exactly do you mean by catch up? Why assume that no one knew about this until now?

You're just blathering now, back-peddling and trying to hide your ignorance by nit-picking definitions like a typical Xtian.

As I have repeatedly said throughout your multiple threads, we've been deliberately trying to keep it simple because none of us have any confidence in your ability to understand this.

Not because it's difficult but because of your arrogance and inability to admit when you're wrong.

I am not real sure we can blame the ignorance, back-peddling, and nit-picking on Drich claiming to be a Christian.  

please explain