How about this..

[Deesse23]

What has "slave" to do with what i wrote and the fact that you were 100% called out and figured out?
Right, ab-so-fucking-lutely-nothing.
Oh, your big letters are impressive....not.

[Brian37]

Drich, we cannot dumb it down any further for you than this.

That was then, this is now. The humans that wrote and sold that mythology back then didn't know any better. Just like the Ancient Egyptians could not have known that the sun was not pulled across the sky by a God named Ra.

You do not get to blame us for questioning the mythology written in antiquity that we were not around to write or sell.

[Drich]

indeed. So what do you think was the reason 2/3 of the christians leaving here was all about if not a suspension of logic and a declaration of all out war on them via personal attack?

Go back and read my initial thread "so what happened"? This demonstrates logic has been suspended for a personal war waged often time by multiple atheist bullies against one christian and it does not matter who that christian was/is they are personally and verbally brutalized till they want nothing to do with theis website anymore.

My call to a terms was an attempt to bring the more logical to terms or open their eyes to what they have become. Right now a it sits I am more aligned with scientific fact and logic than any of the ad hoc responders that I have been bombarded by.


agree.
fine sentiment... show me the last time logic and reason was employed to do what you have described here... These are all great talking points but it does not seem that you all know how to apply them as far as I and those who were chased out have seen.

what about catholic lady neo scholastic A-theist or any of the others that are gone because of the lack of the respect you would offer strangers. There was a bevy of topic these guys would get into and it always seemed to end the same way.

That's funny I see almost all of you like lost brothers, and would do anything in my power to help you find your way home. yes I get angry but that never lasts beyond the paragraph i responded to.

Rights... are an illusion, they are the chains that bind you to a specific society. You talk about rights, when there is freedom to be had. Slaves had rights in mst instances. Dogs have rights. prisoners have rights.. Men and women alike where made free by God. yet we elect to bind ourselves with morality and 'rights' to serve society as if we where it's slave.

Thanks but no thanks I think i will stick the freedom found in God.

again this whole last thread was about "You good people" ignoring proven scientific data in favor for the faith you had in what you wanted to believe.

So don't pretend to presume you have a lock on facts and are not as corrupt by faith as the religious. The fact that the discussion whether they be religious or even political has devolved into a who is the loudest hater contest proves facts are taking a back burner with most of you all.

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"Faith" and "belief" are matters of opinion.

Facts however, don't give a shit what your opinion is.

If "faith" and "belief" constituted fact then Allah, and Yahweh, Buddha, Vishnu and Thor would all be true claims all at the same time.

kinda like how my argument with the PMM went and every single one of you who brought up a technical argument or an ad hoc argument did not realize you where arguing known science/in use current technology. That when you all posted what you felt was the reason my machine failed, it was wrong because again via the links and citation I posted connected my idea with current science and known inuse technology?

IE all of the arguments about taking too much heat out of the earth all of the arguments about the expenditure of fuel all of the heat exchanger argument and yes even the argument about my machine breaking the 2nd law of TD was all wrong, yet two members are still repeating them because they still are arguing their faith in themselves as being smarter than my documented facts. simply because i posted and represent them. Neil degrasse tyson told them the same thing i said in the same way they would yield to that man's explanation without citation or demand for proof. why? because they have faith in him and his work.

Again you all have faith it just manifest it in a different way. Your faith is in people which is why the effort is so large here to destroy a persons character or so quick to label a christian stupid.. that way it allows you to ignore fact and reason because a stupid person could not ever be smart enough to represent real fact and reason.

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Back to being wrong about perpetual motion machines, then.  Keep fucking that chicken, I guess?

how so?

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[Brian37]

"Faith" and "belief" are matters of opinion.

Facts however, don't give a shit what your opinion is.

If "faith" and "belief" constituted fact then Allah, and Yahweh, Buddha, Vishnu and Thor would all be true claims all at the same time.

kinda like how my argument with the PMM went and every single one of you who brought up a technical argument or an ad hoc argument did not realize you where arguing known science/in use current technology. That when you all posted what you felt was the reason my machine failed, it was wrong because again via the links and citation I posted connected my idea with current science and known inuse technology?

IE all of the arguments about taking too much heat out of the earth all of the arguments about the expenditure of fuel all of the heat exchanger argument and yes even the argument about my machine breaking the 2nd law of TD was all wrong, yet two members are still repeating them because they still are arguing their faith in themselves as being smarter than my documented facts. simply because i posted and represent them. Neil degrasse tyson told them the same thing i said in the same way they would yield to that man's explanation without citation or demand for proof. why? because they have faith in him and his work.

Again you all have faith it just manifest it in a different way. Your faith is in people which is why the effort is so large here to destroy a persons character or so quick to label a christian stupid.. that way it allows you to ignore fact and reason because a stupid person could not ever be smart enough to represent real fact and reason.

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Back to being wrong about perpetual motion machines, then.  Keep fucking that chicken, I guess?

how so?

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I have no "faith" in people. I have knowledge that my fellow humans are BOTH capable of cruelty and compassion. Both of those behaviors are observable. I would prefer my fellow humans lean to compassion, but on a planet of 7 billion, that will never be a perfect utopia. 

Your "faith" is the argument that you got it right, and if all 7 billion of the rest of us just accepted your bullshit, the world would be a utopia. Problem with religion is that everyone of every religion claims they got it right.

I know my species is perfectly capable of compassion and non violence. I also know we don't always do that. 

I simply do not assign anything humans do good or do bad to old mythology.

Religions, of all labels, teach their respective followers to defend the label,  which is fucking absurd to me. All 7 billion of us are humans. And every nation, both friend and foe alike have hospitals and prisons.

[Drich]

Everything Drich post makes sense now.

Drich believes physics, but not spelling and, oh, say, diction, is best learned using a dictionary.

wow..

https://www.superteachertools.us/jeopard...ame=492838

I think i am in pretty good company.
Disney 
da vinci
beethoven
 lennon 
speilberg
grandon 
henry ford
Gramm 
bell 
edison 
einstein
churchhill
thomas jefferson
FDR 
George washington
Not to mention Brandson of virgin records/galatic 
and another list of scientist you've probably never heard of:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/87068/12-...tter-place


Not to mention my own accomplishments that again if you are ever in orlando I can prove to you via a walk through of my production facility and sales area where we build and sell speciality refrigeration equipment all over north america and the islands. Stuff I designed marketed and sell. Stuff that does not exist till I make it exist. so yeah..

i can indeed respect physics IE design product that holds -20 *f  then 35*F in a cooler and a 180*f warming bay with 60*F driver compartment little more than a few inches separating them, and oh, you can not add any generators pull more than 30 amps from the truck alternator not can you add any accessory or secondary motors or engines. plus if you modify the engine in any way you void the warranty. or if you change or modify the current ac system you void the manufactures warranty.

So again, yeah i can respect and build something that fits all of those parameters and give two squirts about how you may have been taught to judge intelligence.

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What has "slave" to do with what i wrote and the fact that you were 100% called out and figured out?
Right, ab-so-fucking-lutely-nothing.
Oh, your big letters are impressive....not.

try reading it... the post explains itself very well.

all you have to do is read it this time.

This is where you are wrong. again I look up everything so as not to taint what i say with personal bias. Something every one of you is ALWAYS guilty of.

For example I say the word slave and you all automatically do not think of the word slave as the definition intends.. You assume the word being used is chattel slavery. most of you don't even know what chattel slavery is only the word slave has taken that meaning because people like yourself reappropriate this word and do not understand the full meaning rather you assign meaning and built a world view on top of it.

 Then because I am well verses in truth and in fact I could make a statement that life on modern earth would not be possible by slaves. and we all use slaves directly in our lives at some point every day..

Now, to me before I make a statement like that I will look up the word to define what I can and can not include in that list. 
slave
 noun
\ ˈslāv [/url] \
Definition of slave
 (Entry 1 of 4)
1: a person held in servitude as the chattel of another

2: one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence

3: a device (such as the printer of a computer) that is directly responsive to another

4: DRUDG

Ever driven a car? ever rode the bus? ever use a printer or computer? then you are guilty of using a slave.

While this is an appropriate use of the word, it is not the inbox thinking you are use to.

I look up everything because On my own I know I am not an authority, so I align my knowledge with that of an indisputable source. this also allows me to come in at an angle not common with rank infile thinkers... I often times give you a different perspective on the same idea.

That is all I did here with the PMM. I took an exist thing and striped it of it's need for a replenishing fuel source. Just to point out the ad hoc tactics you are still trying to employ because you just now figured out what everything has been about for 10 days now.. and like I said in the out line, you are pushing back like the smart guys did on day 5.

(I did not insult his intelligence I only complimented his peers to coming to a conclusion 5 day before he did)

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Drich, we cannot dumb it down any further for you than this.

That was then, this is now. The humans that wrote and sold that mythology back then didn't know any better. Just like the Ancient Egyptians could not have known that the sun was not pulled across the sky by a God named Ra.

You do not get to blame us for questioning the mythology written in antiquity that we were not around to write or sell.

Again.. the bible is a map. Not a science book not a history book not a book of the universe, it is a map that only relevance has to do with whether or not it takes you where it promises to take you or not.

Meaning all maps are valid no matter how old they are so long as the accurately describe or depict what it is they represent.

this map the bible promises to set you before God.

I followed the map, and I sat before God. why else would I be here? Why else would I spend 6 to 8 hours a day reading and research the truth so you can make your own decisions? I am here on this side of the discussion because I found something you did not find and I can tell you how to find it too if that is something you are willing to hear.

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kinda like how my argument with the PMM went and every single one of you who brought up a technical argument or an ad hoc argument did not realize you where arguing known science/in use current technology. That when you all posted what you felt was the reason my machine failed, it was wrong because again via the links and citation I posted connected my idea with current science and known inuse technology?

IE all of the arguments about taking too much heat out of the earth all of the arguments about the expenditure of fuel all of the heat exchanger argument and yes even the argument about my machine breaking the 2nd law of TD was all wrong, yet two members are still repeating them because they still are arguing their faith in themselves as being smarter than my documented facts. simply because i posted and represent them. Neil degrasse tyson told them the same thing i said in the same way they would yield to that man's explanation without citation or demand for proof. why? because they have faith in him and his work.

Again you all have faith it just manifest it in a different way. Your faith is in people which is why the effort is so large here to destroy a persons character or so quick to label a christian stupid.. that way it allows you to ignore fact and reason because a stupid person could not ever be smart enough to represent real fact and reason.

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how so?

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I have no "faith" in people. I have knowledge that my fellow humans are BOTH capable of cruelty and compassion. Both of those behaviors are observable. I would prefer my fellow humans lean to compassion, but on a planet of 7 billion, that will never be a perfect utopia. 

Your "faith" is the argument that you got it right, and if all 7 billion of the rest of us just accepted your bullshit, the world would be a utopia. Problem with religion is that everyone of every religion claims they got it right.

I know my species is perfectly capable of compassion and non violence. I also know we don't always do that. 

I simply do not assign anything humans do good or do bad to old mythology.

Religions, of all labels, teach their respective followers to defend the label,  which is fucking absurd to me. All 7 billion of us are humans. And every nation, both friend and foe alike have hospitals and prisons.

you could not be more wrong.

Faith in what I believe has nothing to do with a better world.

God gave us the keys to this world and we handed them over to satan. Satan does not rule hell. the bible explicitly tells us satan is punished by hell which is the only reason it is eternal as he is the only one fit for eternal damnation. the rest of us are destroyed by hell.

This world is satan's realm his kingdom. if it where not then it would have meant nothing to christ to be tempted by him (bow to me and I will give you all of the kingdoms of man) so nothing you do is going to make the world better. as a direct result Christian as described in the bible is not a morality driven religion. it is not a lists of dos and donts despite what some version of the religion say. The christian in the bible is about atonement and the next life. because in this one we are slaves who are owned by sin till our deaths.. however once we die we are resurrected in christ where sin no longer has hold. and we can be who we want. meaning live in that utopia

but here and now know christianity is not according tot he bible a religion of laws. in fact Jesus himself only give us two to follow. while the jews had hundreds. if we where a religion of laws then we would have whole book detailing and out lining the law like the jews and even muslims have. we have 2.




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[Anomalocaris]

You don't suffer from learning disability to anything near the degree to which you suffer from delusions of adequacy, Drich

None of those people are in your company, Drich, because none of them suffers from your particular combination of unwillingness to learn and delusions about what you can know without seriously learning.

[arewethereyet]

What exactly do you mean by catch up? Why assume that no one knew about this until now?

You're just blathering now, back-peddling and trying to hide your ignorance by nit-picking definitions like a typical Xtian.

As I have repeatedly said throughout your multiple threads, we've been deliberately trying to keep it simple because none of us have any confidence in your ability to understand this.

Not because it's difficult but because of your arrogance and inability to admit when you're wrong.

I am not real sure we can blame the ignorance, back-peddling, and nit-picking on Drich claiming to be a Christian.  

[Nay_Sayer]

2 days since I asked Drich to show me any rule on the forum prohibiting me from sharing my faith.

Granted I wasn't expecting him to. I do feel for Drippy, It must be tiring to fail so frequently.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You can stop counting now, Drich.  You've already failed.

Boru

[Drich]

You don't suffer from learning disability to anything near the degree to which you suffer from delusions of adequacy, Drich

None of those people are in your company, Drich, because none of them suffers from your particular combination of unwillingness to learn and delusions about what you can know without seriously learning.

what is the purpose of academic learning for you?

Mine?

To make enough to have the things i want to have enough left over to share and maybe even make enough to put a dozen or so people to work making a big enough wage to all own their own homes and drive decent cars and trucks and still have money to do things. that and time i want to have time to pursue my other interests. like this for instance. I can sometimes spend 8 or more hours doing this or researching for this in the middle of the day. pretty much 5 days a week. for the last idk 10 years give or take. (march 2008) I do take time for big projects, for example when they sent me to nyc to put that whole electric refrigeration system together I took a few months off even though the work only took a week and a half. or if a new design request comes in today i might take a day or two here and there but for the most part I am here every day.. Now either I am homeless typing on a phone camped out in front of a library or somewhere with free wifi, in my moms basement or in my main design/formal office suite, my shop office where i supervise and over see project builds, (in a 10,000 square foot air conditioned factory assembly plant)  or my sales lot office (second location in another city)..

Now forgive me if i do not meet your ideal version of being successful, but to me this is all I want. the only thing better would be to consolidate everything under one roof and one company name in a bigger facility it will double our air conditioned work space and triple our parking and we will have all of the formal conference rooms and formal offices in one central place in the nice part of one of the nicer counties in fl. which is on deck for the end of the year.
(not an ounce of BS in any of that, and I double dog dare any of you to stop by one day and check it out for your self)
Matter of fact we are launching a new website and are having some people come in and make a little TV commercial for the website in the coming months. (shop looks destroyed at the moment as we are in full production mode trucks and piles of parts and material everywhere.) but maybe the bosses will let me share the link if I grease some wheels

To me this is why one goes to school. to compete and build your own dream. Not to meet someone's arbertairy standard. nor to be forced to think a certain way. If i thought like every one else I could not identify ways to out perform everyone else. school/education is or should be only a lesson in how to best learn for yourself and check your own work. to help you master you skill or gift, and help you select others to shore up your shortcomings.

If you have not figured it out yet, you will. you seem like a smart enough guy. I am not what you guys pretend I am. most of you only do so, so you do ot feel you have to reconcile what i say with your own world views. The reason i teach the reason i speak as if I got stuff figured out is because i have, and not only that i have in such a way as for everyone to do it their own way and it just be as valid, and as with always I have this documented with experience and credible source material. But again It will be a while before any of our conversations will get to that point because you still can't move past the idea that I am anything more than what you paint me to be so you do not have to listen to anything I say.

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What exactly do you mean by catch up? Why assume that no one knew about this until now?

You're just blathering now, back-peddling and trying to hide your ignorance by nit-picking definitions like a typical Xtian.

As I have repeatedly said throughout your multiple threads, we've been deliberately trying to keep it simple because none of us have any confidence in your ability to understand this.

Not because it's difficult but because of your arrogance and inability to admit when you're wrong.

I am not real sure we can blame the ignorance, back-peddling, and nit-picking on Drich claiming to be a Christian.  

please explain