I loved the song back then, and still do now. But if the intent was to rail against blind authoritarianism, I get that, but somehow I can see too many listening to that song and jumping to anarchy. There is something to be said about fighting abuse of authority, but that should not come at the cost of devaluing education. 

People cherry-pick ideas. The exploitation gets missed by most people. "Just another rock-and-roll burn out."

I can identify somewhat with the song.

In college, after a lifetime of being bullied, and self loathing I slowly found out, while some of my professors were correct about what they were teaching me, outside class, they shit, peed and farted just like I did.

I found out one of my professors had a very messy disorganized office. Another one was a fundy, whom after class once asked me if I needed Jesus. That pissed me off.

I simply have a problem with the implication of "all or nothing" motif of the song. One should fight blind loyalty, but one can also value education while fighting blind loyalty.

My lead prof. in grad school was four days older than me.

(September 30, 2019 at 6:19 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: My lead prof. in grad school was four days older than me.

And Greta is billions of years younger than the Orange Turd, and that is where the song makes sense.

(September 30, 2019 at 6:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(September 30, 2019 at 6:19 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: My lead prof. in grad school was four days older than me.

And Greta is billions of years younger than the Orange Turd, and that is where the song makes sense.

♫All in all, you're just another turd in the wall.♫

(September 30, 2019 at 7:01 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(September 30, 2019 at 6:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: And Greta is billions of years younger than the Orange Turd, and that is where the song makes sense.

♫All in all, you're just another turd in the wall.♫

We don't need no orange fuckface
We don't need no asshole dick
No dumbass sycophant minion cult fans
HEY, DONALD, LEAVE OUR NATION ALONE!

(September 30, 2019 at 5:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I loved the song back then, and still do now. But if the intent was to rail against blind authoritarianism, I get that, but somehow I can see too many listening to that song and jumping to anarchy. There is something to be said about fighting abuse of authority, but that should not come at the cost of devaluing education. 

I wasn't aware that people were turning to anarchy based on this song.

And I don't see the song as devaluing education.  I see it as objecting to learning by rote and stifling creativity.

Boru

Just listen to the album in full, read this analysis website for context. And maybe read some of Roald Dahl’s books, specifically Boy and maybe some of his other novels with Public School scenes (Danny, Champion of the World or Matilda.) That’s the sort of shit Roger Waters had to deal with as a kid.

(September 30, 2019 at 7:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 30, 2019 at 5:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I loved the song back then, and still do now. But if the intent was to rail against blind authoritarianism, I get that, but somehow I can see too many listening to that song and jumping to anarchy. There is something to be said about fighting abuse of authority, but that should not come at the cost of devaluing education. 

I wasn't aware that people were turning to anarchy based on this song.

And I don't see the song as devaluing education.  I see it as objecting to learning by rote and stifling creativity.

Boru

Same thing.

Learning through authoritarianism is just rule by fear, which stifles the creativity the song points out. Notice the teacher mocking the poet in the song?