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RE: Islam slave trade
October 29, 2019 at 9:14 am
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(October 29, 2019 at 6:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Some of you Europeans are hilarious. You wage wars since the times of the Romans in the Middle East, Macedon and Alexander too; Europe caused the region quite a headache, bringing blood and death in every era.
Then; you criticize a civilization that housed Jews and extended its hand to Europe? your ancestors did this to kick Muslims out of Andalus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_con...s_in_Spain
Even Jews got butchered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
So, what were you saying ?? Most of humanity is waging wars against each other for most of known history, fucking Hypocrite.
How did the Umayyads get to Spain in the first place? Thomas Cook? What business did they have in Transoxania, the Maghreb or the Indus at the same time? Sightseeing?
Al Andalus also wasnt the paradise you are dreaming up. Catholics were persecuted, enslaved (fuck, muslims enslaving others again, almost if there was a pattern) and executed. At one point all chuches were ordered to be destroyed. 1011: pogrom against Jews in Cordoba. In the 12th century catholics from Malaga and Granada were driven to Marocco. Almoravids and Almohads most probably also persecuted jews. Yet....most probaby thats all the fault of anybody but the musim rulers, right?
I also noticed your deafening silence on all things concerned with muslim slavery.
Thats why you are a liar and hypocrite.
(October 29, 2019 at 6:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We're saying that Europeans don't have a monopoly on cruel, foul behaviour. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
Boru Because he is a willfully ignorant liar and hypocrite, combined with being a whiny little bitch.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 29, 2019 at 11:39 am
(October 29, 2019 at 6:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 29, 2019 at 6:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Some of you Europeans are hilarious. You wage wars since the times of the Romans in the Middle East, Macedon and Alexander too; Europe caused the region quite a headache, bringing blood and death in every era.
Then; you criticize a civilization that housed Jews and extended its hand to Europe? your ancestors did this to kick Muslims out of Andalus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_con...s_in_Spain
Even Jews got butchered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
So, what were you saying ??
We're saying that Europeans don't have a monopoly on cruel, foul behaviour. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
Boru
They don't, though their kingdoms, empires & countries inflicted huge wounds in the body of humanity, one that I doubt it will ever heal.
Take the most cruel empire that came and legalized torture: the Mongols.
They were messy and smelly; so nobody listened to them when they said "torture works". But Europeans and people of European heritage elected a leader that finally said it public:
A white skin and a fancy suit do not hide the savage; bloodthirsty pile of personality the likes of Trump hold. And number proved that the west is full of people like him.
Europeans don't have monopoly over cruel acts; but indeed they caused some of the world's many disasters; some include the legalization and usage of torture; bombing civilians including nuking them; fight and kill millions for a small price too like we saw in WW1 & WW2.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 29, 2019 at 11:43 am
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Quote:A white skin and a fancy suit do not hide the savage
Neither does copper skin and a burnoose.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 29, 2019 at 11:46 am
(October 29, 2019 at 11:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:A white skin and a fancy suit do not hide the savage
Neither does copper skin and a burnoose.
Boru
Yep. I love it that the person who says we can't generalize about his cultural background makes sweeping generalizations about just about every other group on the planet.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 29, 2019 at 11:48 am
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(October 29, 2019 at 9:14 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (October 29, 2019 at 6:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Some of you Europeans are hilarious. You wage wars since the times of the Romans in the Middle East, Macedon and Alexander too; Europe caused the region quite a headache, bringing blood and death in every era.
Then; you criticize a civilization that housed Jews and extended its hand to Europe? your ancestors did this to kick Muslims out of Andalus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_con...s_in_Spain
Even Jews got butchered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
So, what were you saying ?? Most of humanity is waging wars against each other for most of known history, fucking Hypocrite.
How did the Umayyads get to Spain in the first place? Thomas Cook? What business did they have in Transoxania, the Maghreb or the Indus at the same time? Sightseeing?
Al Andalus also wasnt the paradise you are dreaming up. Catholics were persecuted, enslaved (fuck, muslims enslaving others again, almost if there was a pattern) and executed. At one point all chuches were ordered to be destroyed. 1011: pogrom against Jews in Cordoba. In the 12th century catholics from Malaga and Granada were driven to Marocco. Almoravids and Almohads most probably also persecuted jews. Yet....most probaby thats all the fault of anybody but the musim rulers, right?
I also noticed your deafening silence on all things concerned with muslim slavery.
Thats why you are a liar and hypocrite.
(October 29, 2019 at 6:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We're saying that Europeans don't have a monopoly on cruel, foul behaviour. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
Boru Because he is a willfully ignorant liar and hypocrite, combined with being a whiny little bitch.
No; I tend to face sheer gullibility with sheer silence.
The previous posts contain my answer to you; over and over and over..
(October 29, 2019 at 11:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:A white skin and a fancy suit do not hide the savage
Neither does copper skin and a burnoose.
Boru
I don't have a deep love concerning my own skin color.
My problem is people who have a fetish concerning their own skin; ready to fight and die just for how they look in the mirror and how others look.
(October 29, 2019 at 11:46 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (October 29, 2019 at 11:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Neither does copper skin and a burnoose.
Boru
Yep. I love it that the person who says we can't generalize about his cultural background makes sweeping generalizations about just about every other group on the planet.
No. I said that being white and dressing a fine suit does not give you a privilege .
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 29, 2019 at 1:39 pm
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(October 29, 2019 at 11:48 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No; I tend to face sheer gullibility with sheer silence.
The previous posts contain my answer to you; over and over and over.. Nope, you are lying again. You are lying to cover a lie, and its all well documented here, because...whats written does not go away, and what you did not write is not magically here just because you say so. You seem to utterly lack respect for the intellect of your audience and its ability to read.
You never have answered to the question(s) if Muslims ever enslaved other muslims, or non-muslims, at any time during any reigning dynasty in any area Islam controlled. Not
since page 1 of this thread which is about Islam slave trade and which you contantly try to derail.
What you have done however is to look for cheap excuses for every atrocity muslims did and you couldnt just ignore. Just like the good ole hypocrite you have shown to be.
You cant even give an answer to the question if its ok to own another human being as property.
(October 29, 2019 at 11:48 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I don't have a deep love concerning my own skin color. Just just dislike people with other skin colours/ethnicity.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 30, 2019 at 6:57 am
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(October 29, 2019 at 11:39 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Take the most cruel empire that came and legalized torture: the Mongols. Are you talking about this list?
https://www.thetoptens.com/brutal-empires-history/
Ottomans were more cruel than Nazi Germany.
Quote:They were messy and smelly; so nobody listened to them when they said "torture works". But Europeans and people of European heritage elected a leader that finally said it public:
I don't understand. Don't ISIS and other muslim extremists use torture routinely?
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 30, 2019 at 7:18 am
Asslat is an apologist. You probably didn't notice this because he's a very bad apologist.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 30, 2019 at 9:43 am
Christians, jews, and muslims slaughtering each other, you say..Atlas?
It's almost as if there's something wrong in the abrahamic tradition.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 30, 2019 at 1:31 pm
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(October 30, 2019 at 6:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (October 29, 2019 at 11:39 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Take the most cruel empire that came and legalized torture: the Mongols. Are you talking about this list?
https://www.thetoptens.com/brutal-empires-history/
Ottomans were more cruel than Nazi Germany.
No. A simple comparison of casualties both empire inflicted is enough to decide.
And no; I'm talking about real history.
Quote:I don't understand. Don't ISIS and other muslim extremists use torture routinely?
Tu quoque detected.
(October 30, 2019 at 9:43 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Christians, jews, and muslims slaughtering each other, you say..Atlas?
It's almost as if there's something wrong in the abrahamic tradition.
Some say that when they saw WW1 they forget religion itself even existed.
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