Waiting for this thread to blow up.

And I'm waiting for it to go down the plug hole.

Boru

(December 15, 2019 at 5:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And I'm waiting for it to go down the plug hole.

Boru

Why?

(December 15, 2019 at 5:41 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 5:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And I'm waiting for it to go down the plug hole.

Boru

Why?

Because eventually, people will become tired of refuting your stupid, desperate, unsupported claims about the Quran being some kind of predicative science textbook, and even more tired of your stubborn, muleheaded, blind-as-a-bat ignoring of those refutations.  The resultant weariness will cause people to gradually leave the thread and find something more interesting to do, such as cutting their toenails, or finally getting that hamster colony out of the attic. This thread (like virtually all of them do) will, through attrition, swirl itself down the metaphorical plug hole of AF necrothreads.

But not to worry.  I have every confidence that you'll find more Qurannic idiocy to keep us amused, however transient that amusement may be.

Boru

(December 15, 2019 at 1:28 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 1:08 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Post hoc interpretation doesn't tell you shit until the scientists have already done the actual thinking. Remind me again how the sun sets in a mud puddle.

This is how the sun sits in mud puddle:

That picture is a reflection of the sun in the ocean. I'm pretty sure that the writers of the Quran knew the difference. And that's why scripture isn't worth a pint of warm piss. It inevitably relies on some mortal like you to provide the "correct" interpretation. Because your "god" couldn't manage  to get it right.

(December 15, 2019 at 5:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 5:41 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Why?

Because eventually, people will become tired of refuting your stupid, desperate, unsupported claims about the Quran being some kind of predicative science textbook, and even more tired of your stubborn, muleheaded, blind-as-a-bat ignoring of those refutations.  The resultant weariness will cause people to gradually leave the thread and find something more interesting to do, such as cutting their toenails, or finally getting that hamster colony out of the attic. This thread (like virtually all of them do) will, through attrition, swirl itself down the metaphorical plug hole of AF necrothreads.

But not to worry.  I have every confidence that you'll find more Qurannic idiocy to keep us amused, however transient that amusement may be.

Boru

I detected what the Islamic religious institution did Brian; for centuries Islam changed from a single book force into a messy sectarian rubble.

The Quran had nothing wrong or complicated in its meanings; but the different Islamic schools over-complicated it with the introduction of Hadith books, so gradually over the years the books required to believe in to be a Muslim increased and increased, until it reached a gross level of having to study tens of thousands of pages scattered across so many books that are worthy of being local folklore books, nobody has the time to study all of that, so the only "experts" are out fellow scholars. A Muslim -instead of finding the sentence in the Quran- would go to the scholar who would search for the sentence in tens of thousands of pages.

Divide and conquer

It produced a very low class of individuals who are ready to sell their life in a suicide bombing, or sell their humanity in a mass killing of civilians, and the list goes on.

And every time you trace a stupid bloodshed or even you trace the sectarian war between Sunna and Shiites you find the root cause that started it all is a blind faith in the Hadith, that collected every negative custom that the Quran fought.

And the excuse of the scholars of these sects -especially when they speak to non-Arabs- that the Quran cannot be understood but in Arabic.

I'm trying my best to discuss the most critical parts of this book -The Quran- and tell English speakers not to believe the lies of the Islamic religious institution; the book is very clear . You can see how Muslims fell like flies from the radar when they followed the Hadith blindly and ignored the Quran under the excuse of it being "too hard to understand"..

I'm a native Arab, I studied in a Wahhabi school, I can speak English. So I can't run away from the responsibility of explaining it

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(December 15, 2019 at 8:10 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 1:28 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: This is how the sun sits in mud puddle:

That picture is a reflection of the sun in the ocean. I'm pretty sure that the writers of the Quran knew the difference. And that's why scripture isn't worth a pint of warm piss. It inevitably relies on some mortal like you to provide the "correct" interpretation. Because your "god" couldn't manage  to get it right.

Picture the ocean as being a mud puddle. You'll find it obvious to imagine

(December 15, 2019 at 10:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 8:10 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: That picture is a reflection of the sun in the ocean. I'm pretty sure that the writers of the Quran knew the difference. And that's why scripture isn't worth a pint of warm piss. It inevitably relies on some mortal like you to provide the "correct" interpretation. Because your "god" couldn't manage  to get it right.

Picture the ocean as being a mud puddle. You'll find it obvious to imagine

But the ocean isn't a mud puddle any more than a mountain is a mole hill. So not only is the Quran wrong your peculiar interpretation is laughably wrong.

(December 15, 2019 at 10:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 5:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Because eventually, people will become tired of refuting your stupid, desperate, unsupported claims about the Quran being some kind of predicative science textbook, and even more tired of your stubborn, muleheaded, blind-as-a-bat ignoring of those refutations.  The resultant weariness will cause people to gradually leave the thread and find something more interesting to do, such as cutting their toenails, or finally getting that hamster colony out of the attic. This thread (like virtually all of them do) will, through attrition, swirl itself down the metaphorical plug hole of AF necrothreads.

But not to worry.  I have every confidence that you'll find more Qurannic idiocy to keep us amused, however transient that amusement may be.

Boru

I detected what the Islamic religious institution did Brian; for centuries Islam changed from a single book force into a messy sectarian rubble.

The Quran had nothing wrong or complicated in its meanings; but the different Islamic schools over-complicated it with the introduction of Hadith books, so gradually over the years the books required to believe in to be a Muslim increased and increased, until it reached a gross level of having to study tens of thousands of pages scattered across so many books that are worthy of being local folklore books, nobody has the time to study all of that, so the only "experts" are out fellow scholars. A Muslim -instead of finding the sentence in the Quran- would go to the scholar who would search for the sentence in tens of thousands of pages.

Divide and conquer  

It produced a very low class of individuals who are ready to sell their life in a suicide bombing, or sell their humanity in a mass killing of civilians, and the list goes on.

And every time you trace a stupid bloodshed or even you trace the sectarian war between Sunna and Shiites you find the root cause that started it all is a blind faith in the Hadith, that collected every negative custom that the Quran fought.

And the excuse of the scholars of these sects -especially when they speak to non-Arabs- that the Quran cannot be understood but in Arabic.

I'm trying my best to discuss the most critical parts of this book -The Quran- and tell English speakers not to believe the lies of the Islamic religious institution; the book is very clear . You can see how Muslims fell like flies from the radar when they followed the Hadith blindly and ignored the Quran under the excuse of it being "too hard to understand"..

I'm a native Arab, I studied in a Wahhabi school, I can speak English. So I can't run away from the responsibility of explaining it

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I don't care. 

Boru

(December 15, 2019 at 10:57 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(December 15, 2019 at 10:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Picture the ocean as being a mud puddle. You'll find it obvious to imagine

But the ocean isn't a mud puddle any more than a mountain is a mole hill. So not only is the Quran wrong your peculiar interpretation is laughably wrong.

? the verse spoke about "Thu Al Qarnain/That of the two Horne" traveling until he saw the sun sitting in a mud puddle

"mud paddle" QFT