Mutations aren't totally random, and darwinism isn't genetics or the theory of evolution, which is modern synth.

Darwinism was the theory that natural selection occurred, which has since been observed, and so..a fact. Selection, also, as MA explained, not random. If you and tours notion is that you can't believe or understand how random this and that's created all this life..then it's both a strawman -and- an argument from incredulity.

This has already been explained multiple times, by multiple posters.

I'd like you to recall when you started this thread. Genetics was so awesome, you were pretty sure it demonstrated god. Well..if genetics is false, how is it supposed to be that, or do that? Keep that in mind when you try to argue those facts out of existence. If you succeeded, you would only obliterate your own argument for a designer. Also worth keeping in mind, is that there's no reason to do so. No reason that the mechanism of a gods creative act couldn't be plain old evolutionary biology, with no supernatural window-dressing whatsoever. There's no shortage of theologians, pastors, reverends, and witchdoctors of every other description who can explain this to you, if you just can't imagine how, or you just can't take an atheists word for it, lol.

Intelligent design, the thing you started this thread to assert...positively requires that these mechanisms that you're arguing against are present and effective in the world, as an example of artificial selection.

(January 9, 2020 at 2:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you have such a hard-on for Sungula? You know there is more to the forum than this thread, right?

Because he is a libelous weasel for the reasons I stated. No curiosity on your part for him to back up his false charge vs Tour?

Well, this isn't a court, but truth and accuracy are an insurmountable defense against charges of libel.

Do you need tours straw argument from incredulity to make your case? Do you need either of those things for god to be true?

Quote:Because he is a libelous weasel for the reasons I stated.

Nope it can' libel if it's true which it is ,And no it's no the reason you stated .It's because i told the truth about Tour and it triggers you so you go on this dranged little crusade to calm your hurt fees fees .

Quote: No curiosity on your part for him to back up his false charge vs Tour?

Lol you man is she curious to board the triggered train and defend the honor of your fellow liar for Christ .I don't imagine so because she moved on from pull ups 


Now clean your room 

(January 9, 2020 at 2:52 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote:

(January 9, 2020 at 2:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you have such a hard-on for Sungula? You know there is more to the forum than this thread, right?

Because he is a libelous weasel for the reasons I stated. No curiosity on your part for him to back up his false charge vs Tour?

Not even a little bit.

Quote:According to Sungula, anyone can make any claim about someone that is unsubstantiated and that’s ok.

Nope but you can state facts then not caring about some triggered creationists whining and table thumping is okay   

Quote:That’s libelous, see how far that gets you, it doesn’t work on me or anyone w an honest brain.

Nope and so far he fa remains a fact despite your ineffective whinging and you wouldn't comprehend honesty if i bit you in the balls  

Quote:so for the record, Tour made a straw man and Sungula is a honest atheist for saying so and i'm a triggered creationist crybaby who dislikes my corrupt  heroes being honestly  criticized and goes on silly crusades when people do so.

There fixed that statement

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Quote:Do you understand Darwinism don’t you?

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(January 8, 2020 at 12:17 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If he indicated in the video that if nature produced the 'machinery of cells' through random processes; that would be a mischaracterization of biological evolution, natural selection would have been key to that development and it's not random at all. As a mischaracterization of the actual claim of the theory, it would be a strawman.

Get a load of his response 

The irony is hilarious 

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: According to Sungula, anyone can make any claim about someone that is unsubstantiated and that’s ok.

Sungula is correct. Anyone can make any claim and it is OK to make any claim.

That stops nobody from observing that the claimant has a burden of proof for said affirmative claim.

For example, I claim that an army of pixies transport your posts to my screen by miraculous means. Prove me wrong.

See how that works?

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: That’s libelous,  see how far that gets you, it doesn’t work on me or anyone w an honest brain.

No libel involved. Do you automatically accept my claim of millions of internet pixies or do you reject it unless I~ provide evidence for such claimed pixies?

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: so for the record, Tour made NO straw man and Sungula is a dishonest atheist for saying so

Tour plainly strawmanned. Deal with it. That is your problem, not anyone else's.

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote:

(January 8, 2020 at 12:17 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If he indicated in the video that if nature produced the 'machinery of cells' through random processes; that would be a mischaracterization of biological evolution, natural selection would have been key to that development and it's not random at all. As a mischaracterization of the actual claim of the theory, it would be a strawman.

NO straw man whatsoever. Mutations are TOTALLY random. Do you understand Darwinism don’t you?

Sure, mutations are absolutely random. Evolution is not random. Do you even have the vaguest idea why that might be? I bet you don't.

(January 9, 2020 at 6:45 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: According to Sungula, anyone can make any claim about someone that is unsubstantiated and that’s ok.

Sungula is correct. Anyone can make any claim and it is OK to make any claim.

That stops nobody from observing that the claimant has a burden of proof for said affirmative claim.

For example, I claim that an army of pixies transport your posts to my screen by miraculous means. Prove me wrong.

See how that works?

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: That’s libelous,  see how far that gets you, it doesn’t work on me or anyone w an honest brain.

No libel involved. Do you automatically accept my claim of millions of internet pixies or do you reject it unless I~ provide evidence for such claimed pixies?

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: so for the record, Tour made NO straw man and Sungula is a dishonest atheist for saying so

Tour plainly strawmanned. Deal with it. That is your problem, not anyone else's.

(January 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: NO straw man whatsoever. Mutations are TOTALLY random. Do you understand Darwinism don’t you?

Sure, mutations are absolutely random. Evolution is not random. Do you even have the vaguest idea why that might be? I bet you don't.

While that wasn't he straw man i was referring to it's still interesting 

And prepare yourself for his whinging and playground taunts .Honestly don't take him seriously .His "calling out" is just butthurt creationist bawling.

LFC:
Why do you have such a hard-on for Sungula? You know there is more to the forum than this thread, right?

Tater tot is hoping that Sungula will be the ketchup to its french fry.

(January 9, 2020 at 7:10 pm)no one Wrote: LFC:
Why do you have such a hard-on for Sungula? You know there is more to the forum than this thread, right?

Tater tot is hoping that Sungula will be the ketchup to its french fry.

Too bad for him .I have standards .