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John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 12:18 pm
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Watch this episode, and he nails it. Trevor Noah also made the same point earlier this week on "social contract". It is something white people don't get. It isn't enough to parade around images of kumbia between blacks and police in the news. And it isn't enough for blacks to say, "don't burn down your own neighborhoods." The truth is this rinse and repeat rhetoric hasn't changed the systemic inequality that still exists today. What we see today is long term, and not only about policing.
My late mother often pointed to her admiration of Martin Luther King Jr, but didn't understand Malcolm X. What white people miss between them, is that even Martin Luther King often said of Malcolm, while he himself did not use Malcolm's tactics he understood the reaction. White people need to stop being so judgemental in socai unrest when others are abused. Plymouth Rock landed on black people and equality will never happen until white people stop harping the old line of "peaceful protest" until they are willing to stop the sparks that lead to unrest. That is the point Trever and Oliver both are making.
One line Oliver used struck me as very profound about white ignorance in the following clip, and he was criticising media in general, "If you use the word Macys more than you do "Breonna Taylor" (AN EMT murdered by cops because of a no knock warrant gettng the wrong house). Meaning Macy's can handle the loss, an innocent black EMT wont get her life back.
Here is the lady whom he has in his clip.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 1:27 pm
I dont think this is a matter of white people not understanding, I think most people realize there is a problem and that things have to change. The question is what are we going to change about the society that levels the playing field and how do we change it?
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 1:31 pm
I assume you meant to use this word:
Kumbaya
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"Come By Here", transcribed by J. Cutting from the singing of H. Wylie, 1926
"Kum ba yah" ("Come by Here") is an African American spiritual of disputed origin, but known to be sung in the Gullah culture of the islands off South Carolina and Georgia, with ties to enslaved West Africans. The song is thought to have spread from the islands to other Southern states and the North, as well as other places in the world. The first known recording, of someone known only as H. Wylie, who sang in the Gullah dialect, was recorded by folk enthusiast Robert Winslow Gordon in 1926. It later became a standard campfire song in scouting and summer camps and enjoyed broader popularity during the folk revival of the 1950s and 1960s.
The song was originally an appeal to God to come and help those in need.[1]
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 3:08 pm
(June 8, 2020 at 1:27 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: I dont think this is a matter of white people not understanding, I think most people realize there is a problem and that things have to change. The question is what are we going to change about the society that levels the playing field and how do we change it?
let people go back to work. remember the riots previous to this were obama era problems. trumps' policy of putting people to work has worked very well till the covid thing.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 3:13 pm
People having jobs has never stopped the police from killing people. Some of them even think that's their job.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 3:47 pm
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Quote:let people go back to work.
Won't solve the issue
Quote:remember the riots previous to this were obama era problems.
Americans have been rioting forever so stop trying to pin this on Obama. Oh and your not even right about recent history
2016 Sacramento riot, June 26 (under Trump)
2016 Milwaukee riots, Sherman Park, August 13–15 (under Trump)
2017 Anaheim, California protests, February 21 (under Trump)
2017 – May Day riots (under Trump)
2017 St. Louis protests (under Trump)
2019 – Memphis riot, June 13, (under Trump)
New York City FTP protests, January 31, (under Trump
Quote:trumps' policy of putting people to work has worked very well till the covid thing.
This has fuck all to do with work .So if your done spewing your dear leaders talking points please do .
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 4:18 pm
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(June 8, 2020 at 1:27 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: I dont think this is a matter of white people not understanding, I think most people realize there is a problem and that things have to change. The question is what are we going to change about the society that levels the playing field and how do we change it?
Of course that is the problem. That is why white people have gone from "I am not a racist" to "Just don't riot and loot" and "peaceful protest". I do think younger generations are getting it though, but not enough of America is. Our economy at the top is still run by old white money.
That is what blacks have been saying for 50 years, and 400 years. What are we going to do about it is absolutely right.
I love how Kimberly ended her clip, " You're lucky we only want equality and not revenge."
(June 8, 2020 at 1:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I assume you meant to use this word:
Kumbaya
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Come By Here", transcribed by J. Cutting from the singing of H. Wylie, 1926
"Kum ba yah" ("Come by Here") is an African American spiritual of disputed origin, but known to be sung in the Gullah culture of the islands off South Carolina and Georgia, with ties to enslaved West Africans. The song is thought to have spread from the islands to other Southern states and the North, as well as other places in the world. The first known recording, of someone known only as H. Wylie, who sang in the Gullah dialect, was recorded by folk enthusiast Robert Winslow Gordon in 1926. It later became a standard campfire song in scouting and summer camps and enjoyed broader popularity during the folk revival of the 1950s and 1960s.
The song was originally an appeal to God to come and help those in need.[1]
Not being sarcastic at all, being dead serious, and I mean it, thank you for the correction. And the word history too. But I seriously suck at spelling.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 5:09 pm
(June 8, 2020 at 3:08 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 8, 2020 at 1:27 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: I dont think this is a matter of white people not understanding, I think most people realize there is a problem and that things have to change. The question is what are we going to change about the society that levels the playing field and how do we change it?
let people go back to work. remember the riots previous to this were obama era problems. trumps' policy of putting people to work has worked very well till the covid thing. I dont see how these are "Obama Era" problems or how giving people back there crappy jobs is going to solve anything, I think you are badly missing the mark here.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 5:37 pm
Riots solve everything...
That's why Detroit is such a paradise.....
And Watts - heaven on Earth...
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
June 8, 2020 at 5:39 pm
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Quote:Riots solve everything...
That's why Detroit is such a paradise.....
And Watts - heaven on Earth...
Because meekly accepting the status quo has work so well.......Umm never 
(June 8, 2020 at 5:09 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: (June 8, 2020 at 3:08 pm)Drich Wrote: let people go back to work. remember the riots previous to this were obama era problems. trumps' policy of putting people to work has worked very well till the covid thing. I dont see how these are "Obama Era" problems or how giving people back there crappy jobs is going to solve anything, I think you are badly missing the mark here. His job is to recite Trumpist propaganda and bash Obama out of spite like his orange man god .
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