Yeah, but where's the fun in being serious?

(June 9, 2020 at 7:55 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 7:35 am)Little lunch Wrote: And two pubic hairs.

I am asking a serious question. This can be preventing people from trying my programming language. My compiler is easy to compile from source (the Duktape JavaScript engine, on which my compiler is based, has basically no dependencies except a C compiler capable of compiling C99), but not everybody knows how to do that.

It isn't a serious question. In effect, you are asking us to identify why your code that does something, on some platform, using code we cannot see, triggers a response on some platforms using some antivirus software.

And somehow, you are astonished at the lack of serious response?

(June 9, 2020 at 8:17 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 7:55 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I am asking a serious question. This can be preventing people from trying my programming language. My compiler is easy to compile from source (the Duktape JavaScript engine, on which my compiler is based, has basically no dependencies except a C compiler capable of compiling C99), but not everybody knows how to do that.

It isn't a serious question. In effect, you are asking us to identify why your code that does something, on some platform, using code we cannot see, triggers a response on some platforms using some antivirus software.

And somehow, you are astonished at the lack of serious response?

OK, the source code is available here: https://flatassembler.github.io/Duktape.zip

I can't shake the feeling that we're being asked to help with his homework.  Sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Boru

(June 9, 2020 at 8:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I can't shake the feeling that we're being asked to help with his homework.  Sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Boru

Yup...

FA, is it finding a specific virus sig (false positive) or a generic?
I'll have a look later if/when I dl it.

(June 9, 2020 at 9:00 am)ignoramus Wrote: FA, is it finding a specific virus sig (false positive) or a generic?
I'll have a look later if/when I dl it.

Aha, I found it. Apparently, it detects the "bottles.exe" file from that ZIP-archive (an AEC program that prints the humorous poem "99 bottles of beer") as "Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.C!ml". But, as far as I understand it (as a sophomore computer science student), it cannot possibly contain that Trojan, because Trojans don't infect other executable files. That's what viruses do.

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(June 9, 2020 at 8:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I can't shake the feeling that we're being asked to help with his homework.  Sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Boru

That's not really my homework in the usual sense of the word. That's something I have written a scientific paper about which, if everything goes right, will get published in Osjecki Matematicki List.

(June 9, 2020 at 9:57 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 9:00 am)ignoramus Wrote: FA, is it finding a specific virus sig (false positive) or a generic?
I'll have a look later if/when I dl it.

Aha, I found it. Apparently, it detects the "bottles.exe" file from that ZIP-archive (an AEC program that prints the humorous poem "99 bottles of beer") as "Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.C!ml". But, as far as I understand it (as a sophomore computer science student), it cannot possibly contain that Trojan, because Trojans don't infect other executable files. That's what viruses do.

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(June 9, 2020 at 8:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I can't shake the feeling that we're being asked to help with his homework.  Sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Boru

That's not really my homework in the usual sense of the word. That's something I have written a scientific paper about which, if everything goes right, will get published in Osjecki Matematicki List.

I’m happy to take your word for it.

Boru

(June 9, 2020 at 8:21 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 8:17 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: It isn't a serious question. In effect, you are asking us to identify why your code that does something, on some platform, using code we cannot see, triggers a response on some platforms using some antivirus software.

And somehow, you are astonished at the lack of serious response?

OK, the source code is available here: https://flatassembler.github.io/Duktape.zip

Fuck that. I am working flat out six days a week. There is fuck all chance I will do your bloody homework for you. I simply have not time for that faffing about.

If you are willing to wait a few weeks I may get to it, but no guarantees.
Things are rather stressed right now, or did you not notice. Even what used to be simple logistical operations have become a nightmare.

On top of that you are surely aware that delving into another persons code is fraught with difficulty. 

Furthermore, my dev machine is sitting in an office that I have not seen for weeks, so I am not sure whether to divert to the office or try and cobble something together at home and create a frankenstein machine just for your pleasure.

Alternatively, I could tell you to foxtrot right oscar until I can get at the means to even look at that.  And there is a protocol for that. While I can mostly work remotely, we realised that sometime one must be physically present for certain tasks. In such an event, the protocol requires that staff bugger off ( social distancing and all that jazz) while I set about my task.

That task might be as simple as pressing the reset button, or it might be swapping out a rack server or running a cat 6 connection. Anything, really. So far, we are holding it all together, but I can honestly say that since this covid 19 thing started, I have been run off my feet and have written not a single line of code throughout. Sundays, I mostly rest and recharge and have a cooking blast to make meals I can freeze to last the week ahead.

So you tell me. Where in this chaos do I fit your student project? 

Not saying I won't or am unwilling to do so. I am even interested to do so. But where the hell do I find the time for it?

BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:I’m happy to take your word for it.

Take my word for what? That I'm planning to publish a paper about it? Why else would I have written a 36-pages-long paper about it if I am not planning to publish it?

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Fuck that.

Well, you asked me to link you to the source code, and I did. What are you complaining about then?

Abaddon_ire Wrote:On top of that you are surely aware that delving into another persons code is fraught with difficulty.

Well, now I know the exact files that are being detected as malware: "bottles.exe" and "rose.exe". Their source code are files "bottles.aec" and "rose.aec", "bottles.aec" is 80 lines of code, while "rose.aec" is 73 lines of code. So, together, they are 153 lines of code, examining it shouldn't be too hard.