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**Napoléon** · October 26, 2011 at 2:53 pm

(October 26, 2011 at 2:49 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: It's the intelligent few that rule and run everything.

Really?

**Cinjin** · October 26, 2011 at 2:54 pm

(October 26, 2011 at 2:41 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm)Cinjin Wrote: **apologizes to the world for the acts of our government**

Never apologize for acts committed by others. It allows them to slide away without blame and associates you with their team simultaneously.

unfortunately for you and I - the rest of the world (with possible exception to the handful of people on this forum) already views us as guilty by association.

Violet · (This post was last modified: October 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm by Violet.)

(October 26, 2011 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 7 billion potential troublemakers. There was just one G. W. Bush and look at all the harm that moron caused.

True. But the world keeps limping on, even when everything's gone to shit. I still don't see a reason to be concerned Tongue

(October 26, 2011 at 2:54 pm)Cinjin Wrote: unfortunately for you and I - the rest of the world (with possible exception to the handful of people on this forum) already views us as guilty by association.

We are guilty. Have you raised up arms against your country in response yet? Neither have I.

And I suspect you pay taxes (like I do)? How is that not guilty by association? Tongue

**Ace Otana** · October 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm

(October 26, 2011 at 2:53 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 2:49 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: It's the intelligent rich few that rule and run everything.

Fixed that for you I really don't know how you made that mistake, but it was a pretty nasty spelling error.

The rich get their money from the intelligent. Tongue

Oh and the population thing, it's a big problem. You sure we can provide enough food for everyone? Won't be long before the population reaches 8 and 9 billion. Where are they all going to live? What are they going to eat and drink? Our natural supplies are running thin. Our climate is changing and in an ever more packed world, life will become far more difficult. Even the rich will suffer.

**Cinjin** · October 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm

As to Napy's post about fat yanks.

That's somewhat fair I suppose, but don't forget that the US does indeed donate a massive amount of food and aide to many of the starving nations of the world.

Quote:The United States is the world’s largest provider of international food aid, supplying more than half of all food aid designated to alleviate hunger, about four million metric tons of food per year. As currently implemented, U.S. food aid lines the pockets of American agribusiness and the shipping industry. Under existing rules, at least 75 percent of food aid has to be grown and packaged in the United States, and shipped using U.S. flag-bearing vessels.

**Minimalist** · October 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Quote:Even the rich will suffer.

When you starve with a tiger, the tiger starves last.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: October 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

Yes Ace, Im absolutely certain that we can feed everyone. Ability honestly isn't the issue. Try apathy.

"it can't be done", "we can't support that many" pisses me off, since its just an attempt to shirk the sad fact that we can and don't. We'd rather argue for population control and blame it on some nebulous capacity instead of owning up to how poorly we treat each other (and our motivations for doing so).

Violet · October 26, 2011 at 3:02 pm

(October 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: The rich get their money from the intelligent.

I don't exactly call a bazillion legions of minimum wage biological machines educated industrially 'intelligent'. I'm afraid the intelligent have only made their methods more efficient (and beneficial in the short term for the rich).

Quote:Oh and the population thing, it's a big problem. You sure we can provide enough food for everyone? Won't be long before the population reaches 8 and 9 billion. Where are they all going to live? What are they going to eat and drink? Our natural supplies are running thin. Our climate is changing and in an ever more packed world, life will become far more difficult. Even the rich will suffer.

No it isn't.

Yes, I am quite certain.

There's plenty of room underground, on the ocean floor, on the pole(s), in alaska, russia, canada, and we can always build taller skyscrapers.

Food, water, candy, junk, soda, booze.

No they are not.

We will adapt.

The rich will only suffer when the poor rebells in its entirety.

**Napoléon** · October 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm

(October 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm)Cinjin Wrote:
Quote:The United States is the world’s largest provider of international food aid, supplying more than half of all food aid designated to alleviate hunger, about four million metric tons of food per year. As currently implemented, U.S. food aid lines the pockets of American agribusiness and the shipping industry. Under existing rules, at least 75 percent of food aid has to be grown and packaged in the United States, and shipped using U.S. flag-bearing vessels.

I wonder if you had a pie chart, what the amount of food would be that the US donates in comparison to what it consumes. I'm guessing the amount it donates would be a pretty small slice.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: October 26, 2011 at 3:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

The amount that rots in silos and shipping containers (and the average suburban trash can) would be bigger still..lol. We don't tally all of that up though, might be too embarrassing.

(and lets not pretend that america is even close to the only perp here eh Napo? I didn't exactly see any rib last time you were on G+)

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