(October 1, 2020 at 11:55 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Rye Rye refutes you again and you are simply making excuses 

If IA can read: "We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence."  and somehow see proof that Russia didn't interfere with the election in this statement that explains that many characteristics of the attacks were consistent with Russian interference, one has to wonder just what would have convinced her.

(October 2, 2020 at 12:09 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(October 1, 2020 at 11:55 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Rye Rye refutes you again and you are simply making excuses 

If IA can read: "We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence."  and somehow see proof that Russia didn't interfere with the election in this statement that explains that many characteristics of the attacks were consistent with Russian interference, one has to wonder just what would have convinced her.

A letter by Donald Trump to Putin written in blood asking him to do it . And IA would likely declare that a forgery . Like 911 truthers .She confuses  skepticism for belligerent contrarianism

(October 1, 2020 at 11:31 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(October 1, 2020 at 2:00 am)Nomad Wrote: I hope you're getting Putain to pay you in advance and in a currency other than Roubles.  Although given how obvious and how bad your shilling for him is, I'm guessing you're not on a very high fee.

There was no evidence of collusion, and CrowdStrike admitted that they didn't even have concrete evidence showing that Russia stole the emails. I was agnostic about this and waited for the evidence to come in. It didn't end up coming in. I don't just blindly buy into narratives that the intelligence community pushes, because they've been shown to lie over and over. WMDs anyone?

Could you come out of your fantasy land for a minute. There was plenty of evidence of collusion, a number of Trump's agents and staff were convicted of it.

But Mueller, ever the party man, went through with the whitewash and deliberately shied away from actively looking for evidence of Trump's collusion even though plenty of it was out in the open.

(October 2, 2020 at 2:04 am)Nomad Wrote:

(October 1, 2020 at 11:31 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: There was no evidence of collusion, and CrowdStrike admitted that they didn't even have concrete evidence showing that Russia stole the emails. I was agnostic about this and waited for the evidence to come in. It didn't end up coming in. I don't just blindly buy into narratives that the intelligence community pushes, because they've been shown to lie over and over. WMDs anyone?

Could you come out of your fantasy land for a minute.  There was plenty of evidence of collusion, a number of Trump's agents and staff were convicted of it.

But Mueller, ever the party man, went through with the whitewash and deliberately shied away from actively looking for evidence of Trump's collusion even though plenty of it was out in the open.

Come out of the fantasy land?

He/she/it is here to create a fantasy land.

(October 1, 2020 at 10:30 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(October 1, 2020 at 9:15 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Crowdstrike said they found no evidence Russia was behind the DNC hack? That's  not what they said...

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-m...committee/

Henry said that they had a high degree of confidence that it was the Russian Government. If you know it's the Russian Government and have sufficient evidence, there should be no need to talk about degrees of confidence. Either way, it's good that the emails were leaked. The corporate media wasted years, destroying their credibility by pushing the narrative of Trump collusion with Russia, when there are plenty of real things to criticize the President for. Instead, they focused on Russia conspiracy theories and mean tweets, and trust in media sunk to an all time low. They even used the Russia boogeyman to try and damage Bernie Sanders, who actually seemed to care about helping people. Everything always comes back to Russia. These main stream media talking heads are no better than Alex Jones when they use these talking points.

What a fucking stupid deflection and whataboutism.

(October 2, 2020 at 2:29 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(October 2, 2020 at 2:04 am)Nomad Wrote: Could you come out of your fantasy land for a minute.  There was plenty of evidence of collusion, a number of Trump's agents and staff were convicted of it.

But Mueller, ever the party man, went through with the whitewash and deliberately shied away from actively looking for evidence of Trump's collusion even though plenty of it was out in the open.

Come out of the fantasy land?

He/she/it is here to create a fantasy land.

I know, but if I point it out at least some others may realise they've their head wedged up their arse.

(October 2, 2020 at 12:09 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(October 1, 2020 at 11:55 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Rye Rye refutes you again and you are simply making excuses 

If IA can read: "We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence."  and somehow see proof that Russia didn't interfere with the election in this statement that explains that many characteristics of the attacks were consistent with Russian interference, one has to wonder just what would have convinced her.

I literally posted on the last page "It's a good thing that they were given to Wikileaks, whether it was Russia, Seth Rich as Assange seemed to strongly hint at, a combination of those two, or others."

The ones who did the investigation said that they have a high degree of confidence, but no concrete evidence. I don't care who stole the emails and gave them to Wikileaks. I want all the corruption out there. It's better that people are not left in the dark, and are aware of the corruption.

Edit: Now that I've thought about it, debunked probably wasn't the right word for me to use. Technically, even God can not be debunked, because there's a slim chance that there is one. I can admit when I am wrong or have not phrased things in the best possible way. Trump colluding with Russia has not been "debunked", but there was no evidence showing collusion with Russia, which is the narrative that corporate media pushed for years. They were not able to substantiate that narrative.

Funny how "innocent till found guilty" takes it right in the ass when the accused is unlikeable......

Simply repeating what Rye already refuted doesn't help you .And innocent until proven guilty has nothing to do with likability so kindly keep your bullshit accusations to yourself .

(October 2, 2020 at 2:57 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Funny how "innocent till found guilty" takes it right in the ass when the accused is unlikeable......

Yep, and you better not dare point out that both parties are corrupt or you're secretly a Trump superfan, even if you call Trump a liar and extremely corrupt like I did. Better not dare laugh at Trump's ridiculous antics either, because Trump is literally Hitler, and laughter is an endorsement of the man. People mostly only care about party. They don't really care about Trump's corruption or rape accusations. They just see it as an easy way to attack him. They've shown that by shrugging off Biden's sexual assault accusation and Biden getting a prosecutor fired for investigating his son. Which is fine though. I'm not telling anyone that they shouldn't vote for the Dem ticket. I just came into the thread to say that I found the shit show of a debate to be entertaining because of how absurd it was.