(May 12, 2021 at 1:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 10:34 am)WinterHold Wrote: You need to read their holy book again when it says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promised_L...ne_promise


They tried to expand and take Egypt in 1956:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis


They tried to expand and take Syria in 1967:


But Israel failed miserably, they know exactly that today it won't be the "weak Arab armies" fighting them but huge Islamic countries like Turkey, Pakistan and Iran.

That's a little history lesson on the nature of this "Zionist proxy"; without western support it will be a zero on the left. Which is probably is, now.

They did not try to ‘take Egypt’, nor did they ‘fail miserably’. They went in to take the Suez Canal, which Nasser had just nationalized in violation of law. Israel withdrew because of pressure from other countries, not because of military failure.

As for the Six Day War, it was an unqualified Israeli success.

Read your own links.

Boru

And we’re not going to mention the fact that the Suez Crisis was largely the brainchild of Britain and France?

(May 12, 2021 at 4:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 3:29 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Achieving the same ends by underhanded means is hardly a virtue

I didn’t say it was virtuous. Don’t mistake my assessment of Israeli policy for approval of their actions.

Boru

I acknowledge Virtue was a poor word choice. So maybe this works better.

Achieving the same ends by subversion rather than conquest seems to render the choice moot.

(May 12, 2021 at 4:45 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 4:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I didn’t say it was virtuous. Don’t mistake my assessment of Israeli policy for approval of their actions.

Boru

I acknowledge Virtue was a poor word choice. So maybe this works better.

Achieving the same ends by subversion rather than conquest seems to render the choice moot.

Not really. If you subvert another country (which is what I assume you're referring to), the repercussions are a lot less severe than marching troops over the border or unleashing a nuclear barrage.

Boru

(May 12, 2021 at 3:03 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 11, 2021 at 3:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: I can't watch your horrible videos. I need to stay awake.

i get it.. it's like i just kicked you in the teeth with absolute proof, and making you watch a video of any success i may have is like making you swallow those teeth. I'm not one to steal you dreams of having teeth again one day. it is enough for me that you are on your heels knowing i have taken your bite. watch the video or not i don't care. the video i provided was one of our first day in our expanded warehouse/office. which just show a bunch of empty rooms. i have since/yesterday made a video of what it looks like a year later. this shows my offices the car lot populated refrigerated vans gun shop refrigerated van being built and service center. i put that on my youtube page just for you.. but if you don't want to see the truth i wont even bother you with it.. in return i ask you don't pretend i have not given you multiple opportunity for you to see for yourself. whether you watch the video or not.

You have a very firtile but sick and very immature immagination. 
I see you love to think of people on their knees in front of you. How long have you had this problem ?
Don't bother me with your tripe shit. 
Get help. You are mentally ill. 

Hippie Jesus sends another kiss.

(May 12, 2021 at 5:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 4:45 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: I acknowledge Virtue was a poor word choice. So maybe this works better.

Achieving the same ends by subversion rather than conquest seems to render the choice moot.

Not really. If you subvert another country (which is what I assume you're referring to), the repercussions are a lot less severe than marching troops over the border or unleashing a nuclear barrage.

Boru

Depends
If by the repercussions you mean the amount of damage done to a country. Subversion can destroy a country as thoroughly as any invasion depending on how it's done and where it's done. If by the repercussions you mean the response by other actors that depends on the level of Sympathy or Apathy of those other actors and the level of plausible deniability a country has.

(May 12, 2021 at 1:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 10:34 am)WinterHold Wrote: You need to read their holy book again when it says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promised_L...ne_promise


They tried to expand and take Egypt in 1956:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis


They tried to expand and take Syria in 1967:


But Israel failed miserably, they know exactly that today it won't be the "weak Arab armies" fighting them but huge Islamic countries like Turkey, Pakistan and Iran.

That's a little history lesson on the nature of this "Zionist proxy"; without western support it will be a zero on the left. Which is probably is, now.

They did not try to ‘take Egypt’, nor did they ‘fail miserably’. They went in to take the Suez Canal, which Nasser had just nationalized in violation of law. Israel withdrew because of pressure from other countries, not because of military failure.

As for the Six Day War, it was an unqualified Israeli success.

Read your own links.

Boru

They did try to take Cairo and install their own vessel as president instead of Abdul-Nasser:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis

Quote:The aims were to regain control of the Suez Canal for the Western powers and to remove Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser, who had just nationalised the canal.[21]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#cite_note-21][/url]
In that regard; they failed "miserably": Abdul-Nasser wasn't removed, the Canal stayed "Egyptian" too.

As for the Six-Day War, yes..it was a big, big big tragedy for Arabs, and an evidence that the Arab governments are not worthy.

It's not an evidence for Israeli superiority though. They got their asses kicked in the previous war along with Britain and France.

(May 12, 2021 at 5:56 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 3:03 pm)Drich Wrote: i get it.. it's like i just kicked you in the teeth with absolute proof, and making you watch a video of any success i may have is like making you swallow those teeth. I'm not one to steal you dreams of having teeth again one day. it is enough for me that you are on your heels knowing i have taken your bite. watch the video or not i don't care. the video i provided was one of our first day in our expanded warehouse/office. which just show a bunch of empty rooms. i have since/yesterday made a video of what it looks like a year later. this shows my offices the car lot populated refrigerated vans gun shop refrigerated van being built and service center. i put that on my youtube page just for you.. but if you don't want to see the truth i wont even bother you with it.. in return i ask you don't pretend i have not given you multiple opportunity for you to see for yourself. whether you watch the video or not.

You have a very firtile but sick and very immature immagination. 
I see you love to think of people on their knees in front of you. How long have you had this problem ?
Don't bother me with your tripe shit. 
Get help. You are mentally ill. 

Hippie Jesus sends another kiss.

 

(May 13, 2021 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 12, 2021 at 5:56 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You have a very firtile but sick and very immature immagination. 
I see you love to think of people on their knees in front of you. How long have you had this problem ?
Don't bother me with your tripe shit. 
Get help. You are mentally ill. 

Hippie Jesus sends another kiss.

 

This is what your posts are like ... thanks for posting it ... bla bla bla. 
I would expect nothing less childish from the likes of AF's main troll. 
He is unable to provide any coherent post. 

Representative Andrew Clyde, gun dealer from Georgia, said yesterday that the capitol riot was like a normal tourist visit.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...t-n1267163

How stupid do these fools think we are ? Anything for their fuhrer.

(May 13, 2021 at 1:27 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(May 13, 2021 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote:  

This is what your posts are like ... thanks for posting it ... bla bla bla. 
I would expect nothing less childish from the likes of AF's main troll. 
He is unable to provide any coherent post. 

Representative Andrew Clyde, gun dealer from Georgia, said yesterday that the capitol riot was like a normal tourist visit.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...t-n1267163

How stupid do these fools think we are ? Anything for their fuhrer.

I actually understood the gif better than his written word.  Maybe that's the direction drich should take.

(May 13, 2021 at 1:27 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(May 13, 2021 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote:  

This is what your posts are like ... thanks for posting it ... bla bla bla. 
I would expect nothing less childish from the likes of AF's main troll. 
He is unable to provide any coherent post. 

Representative Andrew Clyde, gun dealer from Georgia, said yesterday that the capitol riot was like a normal tourist visit.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...t-n1267163

How stupid do these fools think we are ? Anything for their fuhrer.

what riot? do you mean when capitol police unlocked the doors and invited protesters in allowed the capitol building to be filled with protesters and then blitzkrieg attacked the at the time non violent protesters?

maybe this is what was meant when he said it was like a regular visit: note the fake news trying to make it sound like the russians took the building by force:





here is an example of the police letting them in:



(offensive because it contradicts the fake news narrative with undeniable video proof.)

this next one shows the police opening the back doors standing aside and letting people in:




so let me ask you how can it be considered a riot when the crowd at large was compliant with the police?

did you notice how the doors were just opened and no one rushed any one no one resisted that the police held the door and people just walked in? I have at least 25 more videos like this on my phone that document this stuff (i was removed from face book for [breaking community guidelines in an unspecified way but all i was doing was downloading and sharing these type of videos.) which it all contradicts the fake news narrative. there was a very peaceful rally and protest.

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(May 13, 2021 at 1:29 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(May 13, 2021 at 1:27 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: This is what your posts are like ... thanks for posting it ... bla bla bla. 
I would expect nothing less childish from the likes of AF's main troll. 
He is unable to provide any coherent post. 

Representative Andrew Clyde, gun dealer from Georgia, said yesterday that the capitol riot was like a normal tourist visit.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...t-n1267163

How stupid do these fools think we are ? Anything for their fuhrer.

I actually understood the gif better than his written word.  Maybe that's the direction drich should take.