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RE: War
November 4, 2011 at 11:30 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I feel that defensive action is justified. Defense against an intruding force into your home area is justified
On the same token, could not a preemptive action be justified?
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RE: War
November 5, 2011 at 11:30 pm
The time of conquests are over. It's a shame that some countries still cannot get over it.
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RE: War
November 6, 2011 at 2:41 am
(November 4, 2011 at 11:30 pm)IATIA Wrote: (October 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I feel that defensive action is justified. Defense against an intruding force into your home area is justified
On the same token, could not a preemptive action be justified?
That depends on wether you want me to break your nose based solely on the personal assumption that you might break mine.
If you are willing for that to happen... then yes
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 11:16 am
(November 5, 2011 at 11:30 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: The time of conquests are over. It's a shame that some countries still cannot get over it.
It's a shame that conquests are done with.
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 1:53 pm
(November 9, 2011 at 11:16 am)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: (November 5, 2011 at 11:30 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: The time of conquests are over. It's a shame that some countries still cannot get over it.
It's a shame that conquests are done with.
Conquest: to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
I hope when someone conquers you, you will embrace it!
Surely conquering something is good, if it is not you getting conquered.
The crusaders did a lot of conquering, your right, it is a shame, I want rivers of blood!! 
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 2:34 pm
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(November 9, 2011 at 1:53 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Conquest: to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
I hope when someone conquers you, you will embrace it!
Surely conquering something is good, if it is not you getting conquered.
The crusaders did a lot of conquering, your right, it is a shame, I want rivers of blood!!
America has one of the largest militaries in the world... with the most nuclear weapons in the world... and the most footholds off of our soil.
I really am not concerned. And I am fucking sick of half-assed wars. Either bring conquering back in full force... or fucking shred this wasted military to a reasonable level. I can't be a patriot for america until it does either of these things.
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 6:59 pm
(November 9, 2011 at 2:34 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: (November 9, 2011 at 1:53 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Conquest: to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
I hope when someone conquers you, you will embrace it!
Surely conquering something is good, if it is not you getting conquered.
The crusaders did a lot of conquering, your right, it is a shame, I want rivers of blood!!
America has one of the largest militaries in the world... with the most nuclear weapons in the world... and the most footholds off of our soil.
I really am not concerned. And I am fucking sick of half-assed wars. Either bring conquering back in full force... or fucking shred this wasted military to a reasonable level. I can't be a patriot for america until it does either of these things.
So because you had the "luck" to be born in the US with protection from being conquered it's ok. But if you had the "luck" to be born in Iraq you would be against conquering?
They have to portray their wars as half-assed because the public wouldn't condone straight out conquering, even though that is what they are doing. So they tell us things like FREEDOM, and WMD, and evil terrorists will sneak into your bed and rape your wife.
So if the US just started saying, we want your oil, and we want to keep oil trading in dollars, and the reserve currency as the dollar, so we are going to bomb and kill thousands of innocent people, in these countries to get what we want, nananaaaaa we have bigger tanks.
You would be a patriot of that?
How about we shred the military beast, and make it about Defense, like the name implies, even the government did public relations, why do you think they changed it from the Department of War; Department of Defense sounds less aggressive. It's all about how the public perceives things.
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 7:06 pm
If I was el presidente I would flatten Iran and replace Ahmedinajad and Ayatollah Khameini with Rayaan. War problems over, nice Muslim in charge of backwater shitpit.
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 8:37 pm
(November 5, 2011 at 11:30 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: The time of conquests are over. It's a shame that some countries still cannot get over it.
I personally agree with your opinion. Sadly, MANY people disagree.
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RE: War
November 9, 2011 at 10:13 pm
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(November 9, 2011 at 6:59 pm)paintpooper Wrote: So because you had the "luck" to be born in the US with protection from being conquered it's ok. But if you had the "luck" to be born in Iraq you would be against conquering?
On the contrary. If I had the luck to be born in Iraq (and still develop into me as a person): I would leave Iraq and move to the US of A.
Quote:They have to portray their wars as half-assed because the public wouldn't condone straight out conquering, even though that is what they are doing. So they tell us things like FREEDOM, and WMD, and evil terrorists will sneak into your bed and rape your wife.
No... it is half assed warring. They aren't killing off citizens in extermination, and they aren't annexing the places they invade, and they are not taking control over territories they bring down the government of.
It is half-assed war. And they portray it as half of a half-assed war.
Quote:So if the US just started saying, we want your oil, and we want to keep oil trading in dollars, and the reserve currency as the dollar, so we are going to bomb and kill thousands of innocent people, in these countries to get what we want, nananaaaaa we have bigger tanks.
You would be a patriot of that?
Absofuckinglutely.
Quote:How about we shred the military beast, and make it about Defense, like the name implies, even the government did public relations, why do you think they changed it from the Department of War; Department of Defense sounds less aggressive. It's all about how the public perceives things.
And that was my first option for my patriotism. Either war, or don't war. Do not fucking half-ass war or play at some halfbaked-peace. And the motherfuckers do both at the same time. 
(November 9, 2011 at 7:06 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: If I was el presidente I would flatten Iran and replace Ahmedinajad and Ayatollah Khameini with Rayaan. War problems over, nice Muslim in charge of backwater shitpit.
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