(August 21, 2021 at 7:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(August 21, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Mashmont Wrote: I think you can use logic here.  The proportion of gay priests is declining;  the rate of new cases of boy molestation has declined during the same time period.  If you say it's a mere coincidence, do you have evidence it is?

I don’t think you understand how logic works. Assuming your correlation is true, you still haven’t proven whatever you believe is the cause. What do you believe the cause is and then provide us with your evidence. That’s called “burden of proof.” Not that I think for one second that you’re here with any intention of serious discussion. I don’t. But I’m bored.

Somebody demanding proof that a direct correlation is the cause in this case is the one who isn't interested in a serious discussion.  But I'm very sorry you are uncomfortable that new molestations have fallen directly in line with the decline of gay priests.  If people were truly concerned about children, they'd be happy the RCC solved this problem.

Quote:Somebody demanding proof that a direct correlation is a cause, in this case, is the one who isn't interested in a serious discussion.

You have not established a cause or even a direct correlation or eliminated other explanations that explain the same thing. So no it's you are interested in a serious discussion.

Quote:  But I'm very sorry you are uncomfortable that new molestations have fallen directly in line with the decline of gay priests.

Again a bunch of points I already addressed in my last response which you have yet to refute. It has nothing to do with discomfort your points don't follow to your conclusion.

Quote:  If people were truly concerned about children, they'd be happy the RCC solved this problem.

Accept you have not even shown that and even if you did you have not demonstrated your particular explanation as the correct one.

Extra Extra, read all about it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporte...ic-church/

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The Pillar, a conservative Catholic news blog, claimed that an analysis of cell phone data showed Catholic priests using Grindr, despite taking strict vows of celibacy when they enter the priesthood and the Church’s stance that homosexuality is a sin.
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So much for that ban...

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https://abcnews.go.com/International/wir...e-79579322

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WARSAW, Poland -- Catholic Church authorities in Poland say the Vatican is punishing a retired Polish archbishop for his alleged negligent response to cases of sexual abuse of minors by clergymen under his authority.

The Archdiocese of Wroclaw said the Vatican had reviewed reports of alleged negligence by the diocese former head, the retired archbishop Marian Golebiewski. The probe covered the years from 1996 to 2004, when Golebiewski was head of the Koszalin diocese, and 2004 to 2013, when he led the Wroclaw archdiocese.


As a result, the Vatican has banned Golebiewski, 83, from appearing at any public religious or lay ceremonies and has ordered him to donate from his own pocket to a foundation preventing sexual abuse and supporting its victims. He is also to pray and repent.

The Holy See has punished around ten Polish bishops and archbishops over reported cover-ups of sexual abuse of minors by priests under their authority.

A report by people who say they have suffered abuse by priests accuses two dozen serving and retired Polish bishops and archbishops of protecting predator priests. It was delivered to Pope Francis on the eve of his 2019 global abuse prevention summit at the Vatican.
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No jail time for anyone... 😑

(August 21, 2021 at 8:03 pm)Mashmont Wrote:

(August 21, 2021 at 7:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t think you understand how logic works. Assuming your correlation is true, you still haven’t proven whatever you believe is the cause. What do you believe the cause is and then provide us with your evidence. That’s called “burden of proof.” Not that I think for one second that you’re here with any intention of serious discussion. I don’t. But I’m bored.

Somebody demanding proof that a direct correlation is the cause in this case is the one who isn't interested in a serious discussion.  But I'm very sorry you are uncomfortable that new molestations have fallen directly in line with the decline of gay priests.  If people were truly concerned about children, they'd be happy the RCC solved this problem.

Correlation does not equal causation. Do you even science, bro?

(August 21, 2021 at 8:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Extra Extra, read all about it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporte...ic-church/

"
The Pillar, a conservative Catholic news blog, claimed that an analysis of cell phone data showed Catholic priests using Grindr, despite taking strict vows of celibacy when they enter the priesthood and the Church’s stance that homosexuality is a sin.
"

So much for that ban...

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https://abcnews.go.com/International/wir...e-79579322

"
WARSAW, Poland -- Catholic Church authorities in Poland say the Vatican is punishing a retired Polish archbishop for his alleged negligent response to cases of sexual abuse of minors by clergymen under his authority.

The Archdiocese of Wroclaw said the Vatican had reviewed reports of alleged negligence by the diocese former head, the retired archbishop Marian Golebiewski. The probe covered the years from 1996 to 2004, when Golebiewski was head of the Koszalin diocese, and 2004 to 2013, when he led the Wroclaw archdiocese.


As a result, the Vatican has banned Golebiewski, 83, from appearing at any public religious or lay ceremonies and has ordered him to donate from his own pocket to a foundation preventing sexual abuse and supporting its victims. He is also to pray and repent.

The Holy See has punished around ten Polish bishops and archbishops over reported cover-ups of sexual abuse of minors by priests under their authority.

A report by people who say they have suffered abuse by priests accuses two dozen serving and retired Polish bishops and archbishops of protecting predator priests. It was delivered to Pope Francis on the eve of his 2019 global abuse prevention summit at the Vatican.
"

No jail time for anyone... 😑

As I can imagine. Just because they aren't openly gay doesn't mean they aren't swimming in gay folks who simply hide the fact they're gay to avoid being kicked out.

(August 21, 2021 at 8:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(August 21, 2021 at 8:03 pm)Mashmont Wrote: Somebody demanding proof that a direct correlation is the cause in this case is the one who isn't interested in a serious discussion.  But I'm very sorry you are uncomfortable that new molestations have fallen directly in line with the decline of gay priests.  If people were truly concerned about children, they'd be happy the RCC solved this problem.

Correlation does not equal causation. Do you even science, bro?

In some cases where there are few or no other variables,  correlation does indeed equal causation.

My degree is in math.   Yours, sis?

(August 21, 2021 at 8:24 pm)Mashmont Wrote:

(August 21, 2021 at 8:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Correlation does not equal causation. Do you even science, bro?

In some cases where there are few or no other variables,  correlation does indeed equal causation.

My degree is in math.   Yours, sis?

You are a condescending ass.

Quote:In some cases where there are few or no other variables,  correlation does indeed equal causation.

There are plenty of variables not to mention alternative explanations and this explanation contradicts known research on Pedophilia. So no in this case correlation does not indeed equal causation.

Quote:My degree is in math.   Yours, sis?

Yeah, my degree is in rocket surgery. Credentials over the Internet don't mean a damn thing.

How can you study math and not learn logic?

In some cases where there are few or no other variables,  correlation does indeed equal causation.

My degree is in math.   Yours, sis? 

(August 21, 2021 at 8:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You are a condescending ass.

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How so?  I was called 'bro'.  That's a flip familiarity she is not entitled to with me.