The subject is language. and the complex communications that allow humans to, access, with thought. the information stored in their brain, and to do this at will. Human conversation is a very special ability, one must assemble a large number of words, arrange them in a grammatically correct order and verbalize them rapidly.  The avarage human vocabulary consist of more than 10,000 words.
 Human communications allows us to plan, we can think about and talk about yesterday, or years ago, we can discuss the future, we can do this at our leisure, in a boardroom or backyard bbq,  Our amazing progress from hunter gatherer tribes to today's civilization
is due in no small part due to our language skill.

Or maybe it's due to an increase in brain size driven by ecological instability in Africa's recent past. Your call.

(September 18, 2021 at 2:05 pm)evolcon Wrote: The subject is language. and the complex communications that allow humans to, access, with thought. the information stored in their brain, and to do this at will. Human conversation is a very special ability, one must assemble a large number of words, arrange them in a grammatically correct order and verbalize them rapidly.  The avarage human vocabulary consist of more than 10,000 words.
 Human communications allows us to plan, we can think about and talk about yesterday, or years ago, we can discuss the future, we can do this at our leisure, in a boardroom or backyard bbq,  Our amazing progress from hunter gatherer tribes to today's civilization
is due in no small part due to our language skill.

We have an African Grey parrot. She comes out with sentences that make perfect sense but aren't something she heard someone say. We don't leave the TV or radio on if we aren't home so that's not where she heard it.

Explain that.

(September 18, 2021 at 2:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(September 18, 2021 at 2:05 pm)evolcon Wrote: The subject is language. and the complex communications that allow humans to, access, with thought. the information stored in their brain, and to do this at will. Human conversation is a very special ability, one must assemble a large number of words, arrange them in a grammatically correct order and verbalize them rapidly.  The avarage human vocabulary consist of more than 10,000 words.
 Human communications allows us to plan, we can think about and talk about yesterday, or years ago, we can discuss the future, we can do this at our leisure, in a boardroom or backyard bbq,  Our amazing progress from hunter gatherer tribes to today's civilization
is due in no small part due to our language skill.

We have an African Grey parrot.  She comes out with sentences that make perfect sense but aren't something she heard someone say.  We don't leave the TV or radio on if we aren't home so that's not where she heard it.  

Explain that.

If your parrot can converse in ways in which she has never heard, I cant explain it. I would suggest you take her to the nearest university and have that documented. I can guarantee they would be interested

Why do you keep telling people, in one way or another, that you think they are lying?

(September 18, 2021 at 2:53 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Why do you keep telling people, in one way or another, that you think they are lying?

I'm don't think anyone is lying, but I do think arewethereyet may be mistaken if they believe that a parrot can  construct a sentence that it had never heard before. Beliefs and truth are important and no one should be led to believe something that may not be true

(September 18, 2021 at 3:46 pm)evolcon Wrote:

(September 18, 2021 at 2:53 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Why do you keep telling people, in one way or another, that you think they are lying?

I'm don't think anyone is lying, but I do think arewethereyet may be mistaken if they believe that a parrot can  construct a sentence that it had never heard before. Beliefs and truth are important and no one should be led to believe something that may not be true

Yeah, I am mistaken. I've only had the bird over a quarter century. Don't have a clue what I'm talking about. But you know.

You are a pompous ass; but I knew that already.

You have a theory and will only accept what seems to prove that theory.

Thanks for playing...I'm out...you are an ass.

And I don't give a flying fuck that you are 78 years old and you think that means something other than you aren't dead yet.