Quote:hanks for the reply.  As you probably saw, I mistakenly thought I was posting in the philosophy section.  As for what I posted, one was to a website about a North Korean defector named Yeonmi Park.  In speaking of the indoctrination she was exposed to in an American university, she basically said "Not even North Korea was this nuts."  If she really wanted to experience oppression in that regard, she should try joining a political forum.  Or worse yet, this one.  I will also tell you of one of the "filthy" memes I posted.  It was of a person who I take it this forum regards as a piece of shit.  His name was George Washington.  What he said was, "If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."  Just how fucked up does a forum have to be to not allow such a meme.

  Next, I have to disagree with a couple things you said.  One is that the owners of corporations parrot the government line.  Because the owners of corporations ARE the government.  The politicians are just their meat puppets.  Next, you say I can still debate here.  What happened to my thread proves that to be untrue.  Neither can you have any meaningful debate where truth isn't allowed.  I do know of a forum where it is allowed to some degree because it is a forum that deals with the truth.  But because most people find the truth to be so repugnant, that forum is practically a ghost town.  But if you want to know the name of that forum, here is the tricky part.  I doubt if I would even be able to tell you the name of that forum in a PM.  There is another forum out there that banned me for doing just that.

It's amazing how a person can cram so much twaddle in 2 paragraphs 

(March 20, 2022 at 7:10 pm)Helios Wrote:

Quote:hanks for the reply.  As you probably saw, I mistakenly thought I was posting in the philosophy section.  As for what I posted, one was to a website about a North Korean defector named Yeonmi Park.  In speaking of the indoctrination she was exposed to in an American university, she basically said "Not even North Korea was this nuts."  If she really wanted to experience oppression in that regard, she should try joining a political forum.  Or worse yet, this one.  I will also tell you of one of the "filthy" memes I posted.  It was of a person who I take it this forum regards as a piece of shit.  His name was George Washington.  What he said was, "If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."  Just how fucked up does a forum have to be to not allow such a meme.

  Next, I have to disagree with a couple things you said.  One is that the owners of corporations parrot the government line.  Because the owners of corporations ARE the government.  The politicians are just their meat puppets.  Next, you say I can still debate here.  What happened to my thread proves that to be untrue.  Neither can you have any meaningful debate where truth isn't allowed.  I do know of a forum where it is allowed to some degree because it is a forum that deals with the truth.  But because most people find the truth to be so repugnant, that forum is practically a ghost town.  But if you want to know the name of that forum, here is the tricky part.  I doubt if I would even be able to tell you the name of that forum in a PM.  There is another forum out there that banned me for doing just that.

It's amazing how a person can cram so much twaddle in 2 paragraphs 

Some people have a gift for it.

(March 20, 2022 at 12:43 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(March 19, 2022 at 8:13 pm)deepend Wrote:   I have been to many forums.  What I found is that right now there is more freedom of speech in Russia concerning the Ukraine than has ever existed on any topic at any forum.  (The media is almost as bad)  

The left side is a photo of Marina Ovsyannikova in US media, while on the right is Marina Ovsyannikova in Russia.



So you are obviously full of shit.

  You're the one who is full of shit.  Basically, I have been there and done that.  Just look at what happened to my thread.  It had the shit censored out of it.  And it wasn't even anything all that bad.  If you knew the amount of truths that I wouldn't be allowed to tell you here, it would make your head spin.

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(March 20, 2022 at 3:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 19, 2022 at 8:29 pm)deepend Wrote:

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Putin is a

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 As for what I had to say about freedom of speech, all you need to do is see what happened to my thread to make my point.  I wonder when the additional memes in my replies will last.

Freedom of speech is a concept that limits the power of the government. It doesn't apply to private venues.

Boru

  That's because this forum and all the others ARE the power of government.  Part of it that is.

Quote:  You're the one who is full of shit.  Basically, I have been there and done that.  Just look at what happened to my thread.  It had the shit censored out of it.  And it wasn't even anything all that bad.  If you knew the amount of truths that I wouldn't be allowed to tell you here, it would make your head spin.

No, you are the one full of shit friend. Shit  mixed with fake victimhood and a dash of megalomania

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Quote:That's because this forum and all the others ARE the power of government.  Part of it that is.

Okay friend it's time to go take your meds

(March 20, 2022 at 1:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(March 19, 2022 at 8:13 pm)deepend Wrote: Maybe you would be interested in an expert opinion.  Well here it is.

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  I have been to many forums.  What I found is that right now there is more freedom of speech in Russia concerning the Ukraine than has ever existed on any topic at any forum.  (The media is almost as bad)  From what I have found, they all seem to be indirectly run by the government.  It is as Lenin said.  "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."  And from the conversations I have managed to have to some degree at those other forums, all the members are just fine with that.  Will things be any different here?  I doubt it.  But feel free to prove me wrong.  Also, Frank Zappa did a song about TV called, "I'm the slime."  In it there is a lyric that I have found to be all too true.  It says, "Don't go for help, no one will heed you."

  This category is supposedly about philosophy.  Most other forums also have a philosophy category.  They are meaningless.  Because without being able to speak the truth, no actual philosophy is possible.  I will show you some memes concerning freedom of speech.  If you follow the cult of lies and fantasy over reality, (and chances are you do) feel free to tell me which one offends you the most.

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How do you know what “The Truth” is? What’s your process, and can you defend it?

 
  As far as any forum is concerned, to them the whole problem with my truth is that I can defend it.  You could have a forum with 100 of the absolute top smartest people on the planet on it and I could still defend it.  Far beyond their ability to disagree.  That is if any of them were foolish enough to disagree.

(March 20, 2022 at 7:20 pm)deepend Wrote:

(March 20, 2022 at 1:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: How do you know what “The Truth” is? What’s your process, and can you defend it?

 
  As far as any forum is concerned, to them the whole problem with my truth is that I can defend it.  You could have a forum with 100 of the absolute top smartest people on the planet on it and I could still defend it.  Far beyond their ability to disagree.  That is if any of them were foolish enough to disagree.

By whose standards have you measured this?

(March 20, 2022 at 7:20 pm)deepend Wrote:

(March 20, 2022 at 1:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: How do you know what “The Truth” is? What’s your process, and can you defend it?

 
  As far as any forum is concerned, to them the whole problem with my truth is that I can defend it.  You could have a forum with 100 of the absolute top smartest people on the planet on it and I could still defend it.  Far beyond their ability to disagree.  That is if any of them were foolish enough to disagree.

Zero substance in this post.

"What's your process for determining what is true?"

You didn't even attempt to answer the question. You just rambled about "the forum." Camus asked you a legit question. Do you have an answer?

A forum that cannot be named? Why am I morbidly curious?

(March 20, 2022 at 7:23 pm)JairCrawford Wrote: A forum that cannot be named? Why am I morbidly curious?

It's A T & T, though not in that order.

(March 20, 2022 at 6:13 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 20, 2022 at 6:10 pm)deepend Wrote:   As I said, I have been to many forums.  I have never run across one that wouldn't allow you to post a link to a website.  In fact at one, if you are posting something in their current events section, it is required.  How big of a pile of crap does a forum have to be to not allow it.  I gave the support for what I said.  It wasn't allowed.  What do you make of that.  Also, neither have I been to a forum that didn't allow you to post memes.  This place is the poster child for the results of censorship.  What do you make of that.

Read the rules.

You are allowed to post memes...after you have been here 30 days and made 30 posts.

Don't like the rules here?  Find one of those many other forums that will let you do what you want, when you want.

You can play by our house rules or you can take your ball and go elsewhere.

  That's a pretty stupid rule.  I suggest you change it.  Does a meme of George Washington and what he said become acceptable to be shared on after 30 posts?  Or should such a meme be acceptable right from the get go.  I guess it depends on how you feel about George Washington.  So, how do you feel about him.

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(March 20, 2022 at 6:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 20, 2022 at 6:10 pm)deepend Wrote:   As I said, I have been to many forums.  I have never run across one that wouldn't allow you to post a link to a website.  In fact at one, if you are posting something in their current events section, it is required.  How big of a pile of crap does a forum have to be to not allow it.  I gave the support for what I said.  It wasn't allowed.  What do you make of that.  Also, neither have I been to a forum that didn't allow you to post memes.  This place is the poster child for the results of censorship.  What do you make of that.

You’re not being censored. 

You will be allowed to post links and memes once you’ve been a member for 30 days and have made 30 posts.

It breaks my heart that you don’t like the forum Rules. I weep with indifference.

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Yeah, what awty said.

  The only rule that should apply anywhere is the truth.  In any way, shape or form and at any time.  I spit on anything else.  And I certainly wouldn't read it.