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But.. But.... But.....
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But.. But.... But.....
I thought guns made you unsafe in your home!

https://www.9and10news.com/2022/05/05/po...-in-clare/
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(May 5, 2022 at 12:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I thought guns made you unsafe in your home!

https://www.9and10news.com/2022/05/05/po...-in-clare/

They do. The number of unintentional in-home shootings far outstrips the number of stories like the one you linked, by about 4-1.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/


Quote:For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.

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OFC guns make your home less safe. So do open flames, improperly stored chemicals, and fucking dogs.
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(May 5, 2022 at 1:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: OFC guns make your home less safe.  So do open flames, improperly stored chemicals, and fucking dogs.

The difference being, a gun only serves one purpose.

Also, are there any statistics on open fires, chemicals or "fucking dogs" as compared to gun injuries?
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Doubt there's a ready made analysis. I just think it's silly that people will spend even a minute of their time arguing suggesting or implying that guns aren't dangerous. They are, everyone knows they are, wtf is this shit?

I do know that guns, open fire, chemicals, and fucking dogs all have more than one purpose - but that doesn't change the fact that they're all dangerous, either. It's not as if..if fido only had one purpose, he'd be more or less dangerous. Not how danger works.

Now, personally, I love all of these things. Loving them..also..doesn't make them less dangerous.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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If I were to stop and think of all the dangerous things in my home, I’d probably move.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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(May 5, 2022 at 1:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: OFC guns make your home less safe.  So do open flames, improperly stored chemicals, and fucking dogs.

The worst thing my dogs will do is maybe cause you to trip over them.  Basically, they are furniture-holder-downers.   Angel
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https://assets.speakcdn.com/assets/2497/...nd_dv0.pdf

Guns & Domestic Violence 

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(May 5, 2022 at 2:20 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(May 5, 2022 at 1:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: OFC guns make your home less safe.  So do open flames, improperly stored chemicals, and fucking dogs.

The worst thing my dogs will do is maybe cause you to trip over them.  Basically, they are furniture-holder-downers.   Angel

Our showers are the most dangerous objects in our homes.  IIRC. I like dogs. I'm okay with a little bit of peril.

(to be blunt, I like big fucking dogs and/or dogs with big fuckin families, dogs otherwise dangerous if you can't treat them properly. I specifically like them for that - and they end up as pillows, not just for me, for toddlers too. There's something I appreciate about an animal that could fuck your day up..but doesn't want to. You never have to worry that you're not putting in the work.)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(May 5, 2022 at 2:35 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(May 5, 2022 at 2:20 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The worst thing my dogs will do is maybe cause you to trip over them.  Basically, they are furniture-holder-downers.   Angel

Our showers are the most dangerous objects in our homes.  IIRC.  I like dogs.  I'm okay with a little bit of peril.

(to be blunt, I like big fucking dogs and/or dogs with big fuckin families, dogs otherwise dangerous if you can't treat them properly.  I specifically like them for that - and they end up as pillows, not just for me, for toddlers too.  There's something I appreciate about an animal that could fuck your day up..but doesn't want to.  You never have to worry that you're not putting in the work.)

Over the years I have had a Doberman and GSD.  The Dobe was a little iffy and I ended up finding him a new home as I didn't really trust him around kids.  The GSD thought she was a lap dog.  But if she didn't like someone, you knew it...she didn't hide her feelings toward some people.
The Golden I had in my early 20s was the best dog ever.

As for home dangers - I am the biggest danger to myself having a little too much klutz in my makeup.  Most of my injuries are definitely my fault, I own it.  And at my age, I am even capable of injury while asleep.  Keeps things interesting.
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