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Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
Let me start out by saying I used to be an atheist and in a way sort of am.
Secular humanism (which now will be abbreviated as SH and is synonymous for atheism or agnosticism) is an absolute cancer, a poison to society. I could give you the arguments of communism, Hitler, etc, but I used to read these forums and realize these are old tired points, so here’s something fresh.
SH does have a God. That God is I. The God of SH is me and all that matters (the alpha to the omega) is my personal happiness. This philosophy is deeply flawed. And the ultimate referendum is coming very shortly.
I am entirely convinced (as is Stephen Hawking and many others) that in the very near future – we’re talking a decade – humanity itself will start to unravel. In order to enhance our happiness and well being, we’re going to begin putting machines in our bodies. At first it will be a chip in our brain to augment our intelligence, then we’ll replace our organs, perhaps even lack a corporal form and so on and so forth until we can no longer be considered human. If this doesn’t happen, within the next 30 – 40 years we’ll have full immersion virtual reality, where we can live in fantasy lands of unending pleasure. We can be Jake Sully in Avatar, have sex that feels real, go to the moon, the stars – who would ever want to live in this pathetic world? Eventually we’ll be so dependent; we’ll forgo our bodies and place our brains in boxes so we can live in our virtual ‘reality’ unmolested. And why will all of you do this? Because again, happiness is what it’s all about – there ain’t nothing higher.
You can call me crazy, which I’m sure a lot of you will. But they said the same thing of Einstein, and Darwin, the examples go on.
If you’ve read the literature and understand what our fate will be – chew on this: since my little scenario will mean the destruction of humanity (the ultimate evil) was the medieval Church right for hating science?
Why won’t I become a machine? Why won’t I let the Matrix come true? Because through my finding of religion (Judaism in case you’re wondering) I realized there’s something higher in this world than me.
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:01 pm
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You don't like science and or you've imagined a dystopian future (based upon your own value judgements of the situation in that dystopia) rgr. Now what does that have to do with atheism or secular humanism? I don't want to become a machine either, which has nothing to do with the fact that I don't believe in fairy tales. I'm also a secular humanist, in addition to being a pretty hard line atheist, so trying to convince me that I believe in some "god of me" is pretty pointless. Somewhat insulting too. By realize, btw, I'm sure you mean believe/hope/wish/have faith etc etc etc. Carry on.
Oh yeah, welcome aboard troll.
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:05 pm
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You believe that light became conscious - how is that not a fairy tale?
My point is that because happiness is your God you'll forsake humanity in order to live in a virtual reality world indistinguishable from a drug.
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:06 pm
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Oh do I know? That's pretty ignorant, and again insulting. Atheist, no gods buddy. Not a happiness god, not a me god, no gods. Repeat that until it sticks.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:07 pm
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Speaking of ignorant what percentage of your salary have you donated to charity this year? 0?
Plus I'd like an explanation on how an explosion of light became conscious.
I'm not trolling at all I'm completely serious. Just remember the first time you hear it when it comes true.
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:13 pm
My salary and what I do with it is none of your business. I'd like an explanation for this miracle you've proposed as well. You are trolling, even if you're serious. Also, you were right, same tired old shit. Next.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:17 pm
I'm right You are your own God - is your name Lahni-do?
Read the opening of Genesis, that'll give you a good explanation also here's a book that spent months on Amazon's best sellers list written by a physicist from MIT who uses general and special relativity to show how the universe was indeed created in five and one half days.
http://www.amazon.com/Science-God-Conver...076790303X
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Read Genesis, utter garbage as history. Anything else you'd like to discuss?
(say it with me now, atheist, no gods. atheist, no gods.)
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:24 pm
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Get bullied at school a lot? Does raging on all of human history make that pain feel better? You know what will? Belief in God. You have a hole in your heart, fill it with him. I know you're an angry little boy, but life gets better after tenth grade.
You will become a machine - mark my word. We'll see what's 'real' at that point.
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RE: Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies
November 27, 2011 at 6:25 pm
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Sanctimonious bullshit. We have two threads here called "evidence for the existence of god". You should probably begin there.
(course you could have started off in the introductions sub-forum, or by reading our forum rules, but I have a feeling you're a shit and run type)
:Looks around: My dolls are making prophetic rumblings again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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