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Credible/Honest Apologetics?
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 (August 7, 2022 at 6:26 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Are a lot of people out during the day watching for the moon to split in half? Thank you for proving my point. Nobody other than the small audience of the prophet was watching for it to split in half. And even if someone saw it, they probably thought they were mistaken. RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
August 7, 2022 at 6:44 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2022 at 6:55 pm by R00tKiT.)
(July 26, 2022 at 12:23 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: My point was that such paradoxes are not worth debating because there are prior assumptions. K is making a theological case based on a certain interpretation of time. Change that and the theology changes. It seems that many "answers" are really just stories that fit predetermined understanding about how the word works. This may be true. But here's the important part: the questions/paradoxes raised by skeptics also fit their predetermined understanding of the world, not to mention their numerous expectations of God. RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
August 7, 2022 at 7:04 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2022 at 7:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Idk that it’s people who dont believe in gods who have any effective or meaningful expectations of them. There wouldn’t even be a need for apologetics if allegedly faithful people weren’t dead set on gods sticking to their silly little magic books.
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 (August 7, 2022 at 6:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(July 26, 2022 at 12:23 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: My point was that such paradoxes are not worth debating because there are prior assumptions. K is making a theological case based on a certain interpretation of time. Change that and the theology changes. It seems that many "answers" are really just stories that fit predetermined understanding about how the word works. I would not suggest otherwise. Everyone seems to consider his or her own conceptual framework the normative one of right thinking people. Personally I work very hard to see alternative ways of thinking as being valid on their own terms.
<insert profound quote here>
Like a Stephen king novel, sure.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
-as in, it goes without saying that there’s nothing specifically invalid in asserting inane shit if it’s an article of your faith to assert inane shit.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
If nothing was invalid, the term wouldn't exist.
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~ Erin Hunter  (August 7, 2022 at 6:39 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(August 7, 2022 at 6:26 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Are a lot of people out during the day watching for the moon to split in half? I don't often have a view of the moon during the day. We tend to have a better view of the sun. What was the prophet smoking? “If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius  RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
August 8, 2022 at 1:53 am
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2022 at 1:57 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Thank you for proving my point. Nobody other than the small audience of the prophet was watching for it to split in half. And even if someone saw it, they probably thought they were mistaken.Lol yes, people would totally just miss a cataclysmic event that would alter the nature of the planet and would just think they were mistaken......  Also, someone seeing the moon split in half would totally just dismiss it. How very convenient that no one outside your cult saw this miraculous event and no traces of it have been anywhere outside your cult .....
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Although there's a hoax that claims there is physical evidence that the moon was split in two in recent times (geologically speaking), no actual physical evidence has been found.
Clearly if Allah did this thing, he didn't want people to believe it really happened and used his divine magic to cover it up.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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