The recent political events will have a subtle, but lasting, impact.  Dick Nixon may have had his flaws, but, he will be judged less harshly by historians in the upcoming centuries:

Quote:Nixon's campaign staff urged him to pursue recounts and challenge the validity of Kennedy's victory in several states, especially Illinois, Missouri, and New Jersey, where large majorities in Catholic precincts handed Kennedy the election.[72] Nixon gave a speech three days after the election, stating that he would not contest the election.[72] The Republican National Chairman, Senator Thruston Ballard Morton of Kentucky, visited Key Biscayne, Florida, where Nixon had taken his family for a vacation, and pushed for a recount.[72] Morton challenged the results in 11 states,[75] keeping challenges in the courts into mid-1961, but the only result of these challenges was the loss of Hawaii to Kennedy on a recount.

Wikipedia -- 1960 United States presidential election

He was better as a president than as a human being. I’m not sure that whole trying-to-fix-an-election thing will even not be the overriding stain on his political life.

Boru

Dick Nixon was a patriot; he actually cared about the United States of America much more than his political career or personal self interests. The same was true of Kennedy, an adulterer.

I don't know how Trump can even look at himself in the mirror.

(September 24, 2022 at 7:25 am)Jehanne Wrote: Dick Nixon was a patriot; he actually cared about the United States of America much more than his political career or personal self interests. The same was true of Kennedy, an adulterer.

I don't know how Trump can even look at himself in the mirror.

Tried. To. Fix. An. Election.

Boru

It is the cornerstone of American democracy that the losers ADMIT that they lost and graciously accept the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump's actions & behavior are completely unique in the history of the United States of America; no other President has behaved this way with respect to an election loss.

President Nixon was a paranoid, vindictive troll who did some good things and some bad things.

It' s largely a matter of perspective on the part of the observer filtered by their biases...


Like pretty much everything..

(September 24, 2022 at 9:17 am)onlinebiker Wrote: President Nixon was a paranoid, vindictive troll who did some good things and some bad things.

It' s largely a matter of perspective on the part of the observer filtered by their biases...


Like pretty much everything..

Who can actually know anything, right? Amirite?

(September 24, 2022 at 9:33 am)Angrboda Wrote:

(September 24, 2022 at 9:17 am)onlinebiker Wrote: President Nixon was a paranoid, vindictive troll who did some good things and some bad things.

It' s largely a matter of perspective on the part of the observer filtered by their biases...


Like pretty much everything..

Who can actually know anything, right?  Amirite?

When it comes to complex systems - like people - pretty much.

People are not digital existing in an either/ or state.

Those folks that believe humans to be digital get an "ist" after their name.

Like

Racist
Sexist
Ageist...

Ect...

(September 24, 2022 at 9:17 am)onlinebiker Wrote: President Nixon was a paranoid, vindictive troll who did some good things and some bad things.

It' s largely a matter of perspective on the part of the observer filtered by their biases...


Like pretty much everything..

Near the end he was probably suffering from some paranoia, perhaps, due to his heavy drinking.  As for a mental illness, I definitively do not think that he was in that category, not at all, and, I do not believe that anyone who was close to him claimed that, either.  After his defeat in the 1960 election, Nixon left public life, starting a law practice in New York City.  If he was suffering from clinical paranoia, he could have never made it as a lawyer.

(September 24, 2022 at 7:40 am)Jehanne Wrote: It is the cornerstone of American democracy that the losers ADMIT that they lost and graciously accept the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump's actions & behavior are completely unique in the history of the United States of America; no other President has behaved this way with respect to an election loss.

I’m not sure that accepting defeat qualifies Nixon as a ‘patriot’, since every losing presidential candidate (bar Trump) has done exactly that. It’s just business as usual, nothing special. It’s like declaring someone a patriot for driving a car or having running water.

And on top of that, Nixon wasn’t a particularly gracious loser.

Boru