(October 23, 2022 at 5:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: How did you draw that conclusion from what I said?

Because you cited a verse which stated that two people would die if they ate from the Tree as a basis for human immortality. You then stated that ‘die’ doesn’t really mean ‘die’ at all. This means human mortality wasn’t affected by eating the fruit. QED.

Boru

(October 23, 2022 at 6:36 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 2:45 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: Let me rephrase my answer.


You're absolutely correct, two individuals weren't responsible, 3 were.

That's a new one.  Let me guess -- Adam & Eve plus God?  Is that right?

(October 20, 2022 at 10:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: DNA evidence can, of course, settle that question, and it has; you almost certainly do not have significant, if any, ancestral Semitic DNA in your genes.  In fact, unlike humans outside of Africa (and, the majority to most contemporaneous American blacks are not pure Africans), you probably have little to no Neanderthal DNA.

(October 23, 2022 at 11:51 am)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 5:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Because you cited a verse which stated that two people would die if they ate from the Tree as a basis for human immortality. You then stated that ‘die’ doesn’t really mean ‘die’ at all. This means human mortality wasn’t affected by eating the fruit. QED.

Boru

I stated that 'death' meant 'separation', were discussing theology here, there is a natural definition for death, and there is a spiritual definition for death

"But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth" - 1 Timothy 5:6

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." - Revelation 2:11

I would say that their natural mortality had more to do with being expelled from the garden where they had access to the tree of life.

(October 23, 2022 at 12:09 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: I proposed that the "neanderthal" DNA IS serpent DNA or they are genetically similar.

(October 20, 2022 at 8:35 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Death simply means 'separation', in this case it means separation from God. Sin cannot enter the presence of God, hence "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."- Ezekiel 18:20 or in other words be cut off from the presence of God. An atonement had to be made for sin in order for man to once again enter the presence of God.

(October 23, 2022 at 12:09 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 6:36 am)Jehanne Wrote: That's a new one.  Let me guess -- Adam & Eve plus God?  Is that right?

The serpent, who wasn't a snake, (otherwise it makes zero sense why it was cursed to crawl on it's belly if in fact it was already crawling on it's belly) it was somewhere between a human and ape, close enough to the human species to where it could reproduce sexually with humans.

You yourself stated earlier that certain groups of people have zero neanderthal DNA...

(October 20, 2022 at 10:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: DNA evidence can, of course, settle that question, and it has; you almost certainly do not have significant, if any, ancestral Semitic DNA in your genes.  In fact, unlike humans outside of Africa (and, the majority to most contemporaneous American blacks are not pure Africans), you probably have little to no Neanderthal DNA.

*emphasis mine*

Which can only mean that this neanderthal DNA isn't a result of evolution (or everyone should have it) but of a human having sexually reproduced with a neanderthal. Abel and Seth were the seed of Adam while Cain was the seed of the serpent, which means that some people would have serpent DNA while others wouldn't.

I proposed that the "neanderthal" DNA IS serpent DNA or they are genetically similar.

Quote:And the human knew Eve his woman and she conceived and bore Cain,