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Strange thing!
I was writing an article now. Last post.
Previous.
I saw that a YouTube address was added to the text!
My clipboard had something else.
Could it be that a hacker was able to put a YouTube link in my post for criminal activity?

If you copied the text from somewhere else, sometimes links are included during the process.

(November 2, 2022 at 8:54 pm)Tomato Wrote: If you copied the text from somewhere else, sometimes links are included during the process.

No. Tnese posts has not been copied.

(November 2, 2022 at 1:22 pm)Eclectic Wrote: In fact, the people of Iran want a constitution that does not uses Islam at all and is written completely based on the Universal Charter of Human Rights in a way that is both federal and freer than the constitutions of France and Sweden.

In Islam, removing the hijab, music, women's singing, dancing, painting, and sculpture are strongly forbidden (eshae fahsha=contagion of ugliness)   non-Islamic sexual relations  are strongly prohibited and are among the biggest sins. and love and freiendship between girls and boys is sin. For example sex-between a girl and boy has 100 


Iran needs modernism, liberalism and human rights to rise again.

Islam is full of insults to women and girls. Islam is against women. And in Iran, there are many reports of scurrility of girls and women, violence against women, beating of women, kidnapping and rape of women.
Islam made men and boys of iran anti-woman.

If a married woman has intercourse with someone else, the sentence is stoning after 100 lashes.
If a girl has sex with a boy, the sentence is 100 lashes for each of them, and if it happens again, she may be stoned (I don't know).
If the police sees a boy and a girl talking in the park, they can jail them for several months.

If a married woman has intercourse with someone else, the sentence is stoning after 100 lashes.
If a girl has sex with a boy, the sentence is 100 lashes for each of them, and if it happens again, she may be stoned (I don't know).

If the police sees a boy and a girl talking in the park, they can jail them for several months. If a girl sings, she will be imprisoned for 40 months.

Women (and not men) who commit these sins are called fahesheh, which means (one who did and continues to do the ugliest thing in the world).

But look, the real giant dirty sinner and greatest faheshe are Allah, Prophet Muhammad, his daughter, Shia imams and sonni caliphs. Because they legalized slavery and bought and sold slaves and declared Jihad with Christians and torture and murder as savab, savab meaning the greatest good deeds, and these sins were declared beautiful and bright, but sexy women were declared faheshe, the most ugly creatures on earth.


In Turkey,  Atatürk not permited to mullahs to reform islam over time, therefore he to modernize the country by improve cultur and with a secular constitution, and even the victory of the Islamists has not destroied Turkey's modernism and liberalism.

    Yes. I agree with everything you say. And as I said, it is the women of Iran and young people who have known nothing but the oppressive regime of the mullah’s who want change before anyone else. And We will totally support the Iranian People in their struggle for freedom.
 
Here is a short quotation from Joe Biden (From today’s news on Reuters):
“OCEANSIDE, Calif. (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday vowed to "free" Iran, and said that demonstrators working against the country's government would soon succeed in freeing themselves.”
 
Atatürk (which is the surname of Mustafa Kemal that was given to him by the first Turkish assembly on November 24 1934) means “The father of Turks”. Here is a short biography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Ke...at%C3%BCrk
 
We call him “Father of Turks” because
 
1) We were basically going to be colonized by western forces and perhaps even completely disappear from history if it wasn’t for him and his friends (Fevzi Çakmak, Kazım Karabekir, Cafer Tayyar, Fahreddin Altay, Selahaddin Adil, İzzettin Çalışlar, Şükrü Naili Gökberk and of course İsmet İnönü)
 
2) Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has said: “Turkey is not a land of sheikhs, dervishes and sectarian movements”. He undertook many, many reforms (like giving women the right to vote and to be elected in December 4 1934 – That’s before most European nations -)
 
So As I gave you the Wikipedia link on this truly great historical personality. I am nothing going elaborate the subject with history lessons. But I can tell you in short that a man like me probably wouldn’t see his forties if Turkey had a regime like most regimes in the Middle East (or that’s how I see it).
 
But it is not only Atatürk, is İslam itself (the holy book itself) that is saying that there cannot be an intermediary between man and God and it is seen as one of the great sins of Islam to become a devotee or a servant of another human being because all human beings are devotees / servants of God and God only (This is one of the most obvious messages of Islam). So I don’t bow to a person or a group of person who proclaimed themselves to be “Ayatollahs” (Or whatever that means). In one of the basic prayers of İslam we pronounce the phrase “We shall only bow to you (to God) and we shall only expect help from you”. So this is not Atatürk. This is the Koran itself. And that’s a grave mistake that was committed by you shah actually. He wanted to strengthen his power by keeping the clergy by him. I am from a Sunni tradition. I also believe that there cannot be a clergy in İslam. In my view, even the Imam (the preacher in Muslim religion) is only a person with no worldly authority whose duty is only to “lead” prayers that are made in group.
 
   So I am not going to elaborate a lot on this either. But there is a book that you should be able to read if you have access to a university library. The man is called Yasar Nuri Ozturk. And one of his books is called “The reconstruction of religious life in Islam”. So here is a web link: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3328...e-in-islam
 
    In my surrounding, those who are older have the ability to discern very well what political islamist are trying to do the us actually (to Muslims). Our elderly people have a tendency to warn us about these “earthly devils”. But younger generations can have greater difficulty on that. And that’s why I added this link. Read the books of this scholar if you can find them (I think some of his books should be available in Persian too). His approach is very scientific and he makes very good discriminations between what is invented and what is truly in the holy book.
 
   Or do as you like. But please know that there are many Muslims (like me) who are not and should never be seen as people who have feelings of sympathy for what I define as completely decadent, manipulative, perverted and false interpretations of Islam. As I said before. We don’t do these things. I have been grounded as a child for washing a puppy with cold water and I was told that “God would punish me for making that animal suffer like this” so how are these people allowed to sit on my table? – Put them somewhere else. They don’t belong here

In my language “Fahashe” means something else. If you mean what I think you mean I am not going to have this discussion with you

They may be differences in interpretation. But I don’t even define you rulers as K…s.
 
The word I use is “God-king” that’s how I define them. That’s how they see themselves. And this is actually worse (much worse) than a man of woman who decides to use his / her body to make a living. So let’s stop before we both get banned

I missed the deadline to edit my first message so I am going to share Joe Biden's very hopefull and positive comment on the situation in Iran here:

I don't think if a woman has sex with multiple men, be a bad woman because it is a sexual lifestyle! If the woman wants to earn sex earnings, I think it's not bad and is not guilty. What is bad? If a woman is to get sex, this is bad. If a man settles for the woman, he will be with when he does not, and that is bad. If the woman is to be forced with or threatening or beating to sex act. If the woman does not desire to sex act with someone or don't have a sex act at a time. This is bad. That is, if the woman or man dominates another woman and his master to force him to make sex or blackmail this is bad.

In the case : the beauty of budybulders and dancers are bodyseller. Particularly sports and dancers are selling. I think the ancient religions, such as Ebrahimian religions, have been anti-female, and because they anti-female, they have called for humiliation and banned sex .


In Islam, Fahesheh only for call sexy women and means The most ugly person in the worldBut please think! What is the ugliest? why women?

Because Hazrat Muhammad and her daughter had been slavery and sold and promoted and encouraged violence, they have been jihad and promoted and encouraged to torture through laws and promoted and encouraged to discriminate and because islam Insult to dissenter and subcultures , and because islam has forbidden and hasrestricted art, such as singing and dancing, and paint, and ... It's all sin, Savab or Sivab, and Allah and Muhammad and his daughter, and the Khalifas all The most fahesheh and ugly human beings are forever.

(November 4, 2022 at 9:16 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: In my language “Fahashe” means something else. If you mean what I think you mean I am not going to have this discussion with you

They may be differences in interpretation. But I don’t even define you rulers as K…s.
 
The word I use is “God-king” that’s how I define them. That’s how they see themselves. And this is actually worse (much worse) than a man of woman who decides to use his / her body to make a living. So let’s stop before we both get banned

I don't think if a woman has sex with multiple men, be a bad woman because it is a sexual lifestyle! If the woman wants to earn sex earnings, I think it's not bad and is not guilty. What is bad? If a woman is to get sex, this is bad. If a man settles for the woman, he will be with when he does not, and that is bad. If the woman is to be forced with or threatening or beating to sex act. If the woman does not desire to sex act with someone or don't have a sex act at a time. This is bad. That is, if the woman or man dominates another woman and his master to force him to make sex or blackmail this is bad.

In the case : the beauty of budybulders and dancers are bodyseller. Particularly sports and dancers are selling. I think the ancient religions, such as Ebrahimian religions, have been anti-female, and because they anti-female, they have called for humiliation and banned sex .


In Islam, Fahesheh only for call sexy women and means The most ugly person in the worldBut please think! What is the ugliest? why women?

Because Hazrat Muhammad and her daughter had been slavery and sold and promoted and encouraged violence, they have been jihad and promoted and encouraged to torture through laws and promoted and encouraged to discriminate and because islam Insult to dissenter and subcultures , and because islam has forbidden and hasrestricted art, such as singing and dancing, and paint, and ... It's all sin, Savab or Sivab, and Allah and Muhammad and his daughter, and the Khalifas all The most fahesheh and ugly human beings are forever.

(November 4, 2022 at 4:32 pm)Eclectic Wrote: I don't think if a woman has sex with multiple men, be a bad woman because it is a sexual lifestyle! If the woman wants to earn sex earnings, I think it's not bad and is not guilty. What is bad? If a woman is to get sex, this is bad. If a man settles for the woman, he will be with when he does not, and that is bad. If the woman is to be forced with or threatening or beating to sex act. If the woman does not desire to sex act with someone or don't have a sex act at a time. This is bad. That is, if the woman or man dominates another woman and his master to force him to make sex or blackmail this is bad.

In the case :  the beauty of budybulders and dancers are bodyseller. Particularly sports and dancers are selling. I think the ancient religions, such as Ebrahimian religions, have been anti-female, and because they anti-female, they have called for humiliation and banned sex .


In Islam, Fahesheh only for call sexy women and means The most ugly person in the worldBut please think! What is the ugliest? why women?

Because Hazrat Muhammad and her daughter had been slavery and sold and promoted and encouraged violence, they have been jihad and promoted and encouraged to torture through laws and promoted and encouraged to discriminate and because islam Insult to dissenter and subcultures , and because islam has forbidden and hasrestricted art, such as singing and dancing, and paint, and ... It's all sin, Savab or Sivab, and Allah and Muhammad and his daughter, and the Khalifas all The most fahesheh and ugly human beings are forever.

I gave you a thumb up but I am still going to comment on this last phrase:
“Because Hazrat Muhammad and her daughter had been slavery and sold and promoted and encouraged violence, they have been jihad and promoted and encouraged to torture through laws and promoted and encouraged to discriminate and because islam Insult to dissenter and subcultures , and because islam has forbidden and hasrestricted art, such as singing and dancing, and paint, and ... It's all sin, Savab or Sivab, and Allah and Muhammad and his daughter, and the Khalifas all The most fahesheh and ugly human beings are forever.”
 
- There are different versions of religious teachings. Of course there is actually only one teaching. But the prophet lived some 1400 years before us. So some of thing you see as “İslam” might not be İslam and some of the things you see as “history” might not be history.
 
So I usually don’t get into such debates. I only focus on what the holy book is saying. I don’t care about “interpretations” etc. In my country too, there are some clerics who say things like “I wish the Greeks had destroyed Turkey completely after WWI” (A cleric really said this because he really hated Atatürk and his reforms). So if I was to listen to him I should glorify the Greeks and even convert to Greek Orthodoxy (because that’s exactly what this “muslim” + “cleric” is saying – and he is very popular among political islamists and many people do believe the things he is saying)
 
So my question for you is: “Who told you these things?” None of these are true. I am sorry.
 
Especially this:    islam has forbidden and hasrestricted art, such as singing and dancing, and paint,
 
This is 100% lie. Don’t you know about the Persian art after the Muslim conquest? You have master musicians, great belly dancers (like Mikaeil Alizadeh who performs her arts in İstanbul because of the political islamist regime in Iran), great book imagery in the epic poetry book called The Shahnameh with such beautyfull images in it.


Here is “Azar Barzin killing a Dragon” from the Shahname (This was in my Art History class when I was in college):



And I intend to come to Iran to discover the art, architecture, music, imagery and artistic achievements of ancient Persia at some time after this Mullah regime is gone.

So why do you believe evrything you hear?

- What you see as "İslam" is what they are telling you about İslam. And they are liers. So don't believe it. 

اسلام برای همان هزاروچهارصد سال قبل نیز یک فاجعه بوده.
اسلام یک عقبگرد به ما قبل تاریخ بوده.

اصلا اسلام و یهودیت بازگشت به گذشته هم نبوده یک فاجعه یک جهش معیوب بوده. انسانهای ۲۰۰هزار سال قبل هم مثل الله و محمد وحشی نیستند.

همان ۱۴۰۰ سال قبل نیز اسلام بد بوده است

وقتی شما یک کتاب می نویسید که محمد رسول الله برده دار نبوده من هم مجبورم یک کتاب بنویسم یا هزینه اش را بدهم که بنویسد برده دار بوده.

وقتی شما یک شاخه مذهبی مسلمان درست کنی که تبلیغ کند محند برده دار نبوده من هم باید به فرقه های بنیادگرا کمک کنم تا تبلغ کنند بوده است.

طبق الگوی اصلاح کننده های اسلام ، بیاییم برای نئونازی های جهان تبلیغ کنیم که هیتلر نژادپرست نبوده و قاتل یهودیان نبوده! بلکه دروغای انگلیس و آمریکا بوده که هیتلر را آدم جنایتکاری نشان داده است.تا از این طریق نئونازی ها دوست یهود و اسراییل شوند و دیگررخطرناک نباشند.



I do not know why AI of Google translate has been damaged since about 2-3 years ago!
This is find me and afterward find my device start to bad and wrong taranslation.
I think a grand attack or hack has been started or these AI has self-knowing or self-understanding خودآگاهی and it try to do something els for itselfe resons.

this is Google translate:

Islam was a disaster for the same thousand and four hundred years ago.
Islam has been a backward to pre -history.

Islam and Judaism have not been a return to the past. A disaster was a defective leap. Humans are not like the savage of Allah and Muhammad.

The same was the same as bad Islam as well

When you write a book that was not a slave Muhammad Rasulullah, I also had to write a book or pay the cost to write a slave.

When you make a Muslim religious branch to propagate, it was not a slave slave. I must also help the fundamentalist sects to propagate.

According to the pattern of Islamic reformists, let's propagate the world's neo -nazis that Hitler was not a racist and was not a Jewish killer! Rather, it was the lie of the British and the US that has made Hitler a criminal. In this way, the Neonazis become a Jewish and Israeli friend and not to be a hungry.