(November 23, 2022 at 8:20 pm)Uberpod Wrote: Any input from more reasonable persons will be greatly appreciated.

Your original post was asking about bias against atheists by a Christian therapist.

Now, it's about being gay and seeing a Christian therapist who is biased.

Or is it about gay atheists and Christian therapists.

Pick a lane.

What is your actual issue?

The example above is the most detailed instance I have. And the patient is not Xtian but not atheist either. She is spiritual, perhaps a deist or agnostic.

I do know of several examples of a therapist quoting the Bible or referencing xtian tropes to atheist patients. And indeed I got the impression the therapy was short lived.

(November 23, 2022 at 8:45 pm)Uberpod Wrote: The example above is the most detailed instance I have.  And  the patient is not Xtian but not atheist either.  She is spiritual, perhaps a deist or agnostic.

I do know of several examples of a therapist quoting the Bible or referencing xtian tropes to atheist patients. And indeed I got the impression the therapy was short lived.

Two years is not short-lived.  

Try again.

My friend handled her therapist well. She said I will be coming to two more sessions free of charge and I will be giving you information on just how unethical you have been. The therapist clearly should have not taken the case from the start. As an abuse survivor, trust was the patient's biggest issue.

(November 23, 2022 at 8:50 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(November 23, 2022 at 8:45 pm)Uberpod Wrote: The example above is the most detailed instance I have.  And  the patient is not Xtian but not atheist either.  She is spiritual, perhaps a deist or agnostic.

I do know of several examples of a therapist quoting the Bible or referencing xtian tropes to atheist patients. And indeed I got the impression the therapy was short lived.

Two years is not short-lived.  

Try again.

No, two years is not short-lived.  I speak of three additional examples of patient experience involving atheists.    The length of therapy could have involved anywhere from two sessions to 6 mos worth.  I don't recall or may have never been privy to that detail.

What is your actual issue with me?

(November 23, 2022 at 8:54 pm)Uberpod Wrote: My friend handled her therapist well. She said I will be coming to two more sessions free of charge and I will be giving you information on just how unethical you have been.  The therapist clearly should have not taken the case from the start. As an abuse survivor, trust was the patient's biggest issue.

If the therapist was so unethical, why did your friend demand two free sessions? That’s kind of like paying for a horrible meal at a restaurant and demanding two free meals cooked just as badly.

Yeah - BS.

Boru

(November 23, 2022 at 9:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 23, 2022 at 8:54 pm)Uberpod Wrote: My friend handled her therapist well. She said I will be coming to two more sessions free of charge and I will be giving you information on just how unethical you have been.  The therapist clearly should have not taken the case from the start. As an abuse survivor, trust was the patient's biggest issue.

If the therapist was so unethical, why did your friend demand two free sessions? That’s kind of like paying for a horrible meal at a restaurant and demanding two free meals cooked just as badly.

Yeah - BS.

My friend was a grad student in a Clinical Phd Program at the time. She insisted on the sessions to train the therapist and as an act of assertiveness that was empowering.  She did not go to receive anything more accept to be listened to.

Skepticism from one is understandable. From many suggests this is a milieu of mistrust. Not sure why it makes sense to doubt someone for the slim reasons that appear here.

Bullfuckingshit!

(November 23, 2022 at 8:54 pm)Uberpod Wrote: My friend handled her therapist well. She said I will be coming to two more sessions free of charge and I will be giving you information on just how unethical you have been.  The therapist clearly should have not taken the case from the start. As an abuse survivor, trust was the patient's biggest issue.

As your friend discovered, there's always a risk with a therapist. They might have prejudices, or other issues which will make them unhelpful. They're human, too.

Is your friend in a big city? I remember even before the Internet you could kind of ask around and find an appropriate therapist. It was known who was gay-friendly, and what their style was. Some give a lot of advice, and some barely say anything. I remember my friends discussing when I lived in NYC. Back in the '80s there was still significant discrimination from landlords, employers, etc., even more than now. So it was normal to gather information from the grapevine before signing up with anyone.

I guess it was easier in that environment, since so many of the people I worked with were gay. Also talk-therapy had little stigma in NYC. 

Is your friend in a big city, or a college town where there are choices in therapists? It must be harder in smaller towns. I wonder if there are message boards or web sites like "Rate My Professor" where you can read reviews. I think I'd do that if I were going into therapy. 

My niece had a disappointing experience with a therapist, I recall. The therapist would bring up her own issues with her weight, and say things like "I wish I were as thin as you," etc. Which given the circumstances was shockingly unprofessional. I don't know what the credentialing process for these people is in America, but it should definitely be stricter. 

Anyway, I'm glad your friend stood up to the therapist. Let's hope she becomes more professional in the future.

Power drunk indeed.

Here, I clearly state the first example is about a non-atheist, then mention other examples involving atheists that has short-lived therapy and one mod conflates everything saying two years is not short lived. Nonsensical. Then the reading comprehension issue is used as evidence that I am not being genuine.?
Next, another mod misses the reasoning for the patient to return for two more sessions which is explicitly stated, wondering why she would return? Something is off here.

Let' start over.