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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
March 15, 2023 at 12:22 pm
(March 15, 2023 at 11:36 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (March 6, 2023 at 12:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You think it's not a high-quality article in spite of it agreeing with you? Okaaaaay...
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It's not "agreeing with me". I simply don't know whether rice milk or cow's milk, the way they are usually made today, emits more methane. And you don't know that either. This discussion is very far from an academic discussion. No references to peer-reviewed journals, no attempt to calculate the p-values... Mostly just walls of blind assertions (looking at you, @The Grand Nudger).
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 14, 2023 at 1:36 pm
(March 15, 2023 at 12:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'd tell you to do your own research, Flat - it's not as if this stuff is actually hidden deep within the bowels of academia...except that I'm pretty sure the results of you doing your own research will be predictably horrific. Under currently prevalent conditions, rice milk is a bigger methane emitter than dairy - because rice produces more methane than the entire cattle industry - dairy being a fraction of it's footprint. There are better ways to grow rice, ofc, just as there are better ways to operate a dairy. From a methane standpoint, obvs.
Beyond that, I'm amazed that a climate conscious person, like yourself, is so disinterested in the capture of climate regulatory and advisory agencies by fossil fuel interests? If ghg emmissions are a problem, that's certainly a compounding factor, no?
Have you ever done some actual research? You know, publishing papers in peer-reviewed journals? It immunizes you from all sorts of bullshit.
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 14, 2023 at 3:21 pm
(April 14, 2023 at 1:36 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (March 15, 2023 at 12:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'd tell you to do your own research, Flat - it's not as if this stuff is actually hidden deep within the bowels of academia...except that I'm pretty sure the results of you doing your own research will be predictably horrific. Under currently prevalent conditions, rice milk is a bigger methane emitter than dairy - because rice produces more methane than the entire cattle industry - dairy being a fraction of it's footprint. There are better ways to grow rice, ofc, just as there are better ways to operate a dairy. From a methane standpoint, obvs.
Beyond that, I'm amazed that a climate conscious person, like yourself, is so disinterested in the capture of climate regulatory and advisory agencies by fossil fuel interests? If ghg emmissions are a problem, that's certainly a compounding factor, no?
Have you ever done some actual research? You know, publishing papers in peer-reviewed journals? It immunizes you from all sorts of bullshit.
Doesn't seem to have helped you much.
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 14, 2023 at 3:30 pm
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2023 at 3:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yes, Flat, and I have to say that it's never been my personal experience that land grant kids are immunized from any sort of bullshit for having been or being in the process of publishing - and you're obviously not.... despite having been published yourself? I can believe that alt ag draws in alot of loons (where else do you think the bs you keep falling for is coming from...?), and maybe comp sci or linguistics is less productive in this regard - but you'd have to try pretty hard to sell me on that idea. I do meet their friends in comp sci from time to time....
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 14, 2023 at 5:24 pm
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Perhaps we should feed some of our members rice so they emit less "methane"...
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 14, 2023 at 8:39 pm
(April 14, 2023 at 5:24 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps we should feed some of our members rice so they emit less "methane"...
That won't stop FA from talking shit.
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 15, 2023 at 5:39 am
(April 14, 2023 at 3:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, Flat, and I have to say that it's never been my personal experience that land grant kids are immunized from any sort of bullshit for having been or being in the process of publishing - and you're obviously not.... despite having been published yourself? I can believe that alt ag draws in alot of loons (where else do you think the bs you keep falling for is coming from...?), and maybe comp sci or linguistics is less productive in this regard - but you'd have to try pretty hard to sell me on that idea. I do meet their friends in comp sci from time to time....
Of course, to fully understand how science works, you probably need to publish some papers in hard science. But even publishing a paper in soft science (linguistics...) or engineering (computer science...) helps against being an idiot.
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 15, 2023 at 5:45 am
(April 14, 2023 at 3:21 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (April 14, 2023 at 1:36 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Have you ever done some actual research? You know, publishing papers in peer-reviewed journals? It immunizes you from all sorts of bullshit.
Doesn't seem to have helped you much.
Perhaps you know so little about how science works that you are unable to recognize actual competence in others?
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 15, 2023 at 5:56 am
(April 15, 2023 at 5:39 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (April 14, 2023 at 3:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, Flat, and I have to say that it's never been my personal experience that land grant kids are immunized from any sort of bullshit for having been or being in the process of publishing - and you're obviously not.... despite having been published yourself? I can believe that alt ag draws in alot of loons (where else do you think the bs you keep falling for is coming from...?), and maybe comp sci or linguistics is less productive in this regard - but you'd have to try pretty hard to sell me on that idea. I do meet their friends in comp sci from time to time....
Of course, to fully understand how science works, you probably need to publish some papers in hard science. But even publishing a paper in soft science (linguistics...) or engineering (computer science...) helps against being an idiot.
Publishing scientific papers isn’t so much about understanding how science works as it is about understanding how science publishing works.
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RE: Does rice milk or milk from grain-fed cows emit less methane?
April 15, 2023 at 7:38 am
(April 15, 2023 at 5:45 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (April 14, 2023 at 3:21 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Doesn't seem to have helped you much.
Perhaps you know so little about how science works that you are unable to recognize actual competence in others?
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