(May 20, 2023 at 10:53 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(May 20, 2023 at 10:46 am)Ravenshire Wrote: [citation needed]


Mighty bold claim for someone who refuses to back up their bare assertions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_...Statistics

Wow. A graph from a Wiki page citing historical GDP rates. That proves exactly fuck-all about your claim that "Europe is becoming weaker and less relevant and won't be able to survive in a competitive world."

Care to try again, Sparky? Maybe without beating the dead GDP horse. GDP is but a small part in overall quality of life.

(May 20, 2023 at 11:02 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Wow. A graph from a Wiki page citing historical GDP rates. That proves exactly fuck-all about your claim that "Europe is becoming weaker and less relevant and won't be able to survive in a competitive world."

Care to try again, Sparky? Maybe without beating the dead GDP horse. GDP is but a small part in overall quality of life.

We are discussing competitiveness not quality of life. Stagnating economy won't make your society future-proof.

(May 20, 2023 at 11:22 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(May 20, 2023 at 11:02 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Wow. A graph from a Wiki page citing historical GDP rates. That proves exactly fuck-all about your claim that "Europe is becoming weaker and less relevant and won't be able to survive in a competitive world."

Care to try again, Sparky? Maybe without beating the dead GDP horse. GDP is but a small part in overall quality of life.

We are discussing competitiveness not quality of life. Stagnating economy won't make your society future-proof.

You're (ineffectively) discussing competitiveness. I'm pointing out that you have a very narrow view and that GDP doesn't come close to clearly describing how good (or bad) a country is truly doing, or whether it's a place you would want to live. If you wish to keep banging that drum, by all means go right ahead. You've proven nothing and continued efforts will be futile, but it's your time to waste. Just don't be surprised when people stop engaging with your puerile attempts.

Quote:We are discussing competitiveness not quality of life. Stagnating economy won't make your society future-proof.

Competitiveness is meaningless if your citizens' lives are shit. The economy exists to serve people, not the other way around. Also, infinite GDP growth is not sustainable. You know nothing about economics.

Quote:Europe is becoming weaker and less relevant and won't be able to survive in a competitive world.

Competition doesn't mean shit if you turn your nation into hell on earth for its citizens.

(May 20, 2023 at 11:32 am)Ravenshire Wrote:

(May 20, 2023 at 11:22 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: We are discussing competitiveness not quality of life. Stagnating economy won't make your society future-proof.

You're (ineffectively) discussing competitiveness. I'm pointing out that you have a very narrow view and that GDP doesn't come close to clearly describing how good (or bad) a country is truly doing, or whether it's a place you would want to live. If you wish to keep banging that drum, by all means go right ahead. You've proven nothing and continued efforts will be futile, but it's your time to waste. Just don't be surprised when people stop engaging with your puerile attempts.

I can't prove anything to you but most rational people would agree that strong vibrant growing economy is necessary to overcome challenges that Americans will face in the future while US GDP growth rate was unusually low for the last 15 years. One way to boost economic growth is to cut welfare spending and deregulate the economy. It seems to work well for China.

(May 20, 2023 at 12:06 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(May 20, 2023 at 11:32 am)Ravenshire Wrote: You're (ineffectively) discussing competitiveness. I'm pointing out that you have a very narrow view and that GDP doesn't come close to clearly describing how good (or bad) a country is truly doing, or whether it's a place you would want to live. If you wish to keep banging that drum, by all means go right ahead. You've proven nothing and continued efforts will be futile, but it's your time to waste. Just don't be surprised when people stop engaging with your puerile attempts.

I can't prove anything to you but most rational people would agree that strong vibrant growing economy is necessary to overcome challenges that Americans will face in the future while US GDP growth rate was unusually low for the last 15 years. One way to boost economic growth is to cut welfare spending and deregulate the economy. It seems to work well for China.

Holy fuck, but you're hopelessly clueless.

Keep on with that hopelessly narrow view you have of economics. I'm done with trying to educate the ineducable.

(May 20, 2023 at 12:06 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: ....deregulate the economy. It seems to work well for China.

Bolding mine

Deregulating?! Stop hitting the pipe, my friend. China is an authoritarian regime, including heavy regulation of its economy by the government.

(May 20, 2023 at 12:14 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:

(May 20, 2023 at 12:06 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: I can't prove anything to you but most rational people would agree that strong vibrant growing economy is necessary to overcome challenges that Americans will face in the future while US GDP growth rate was unusually low for the last 15 years. One way to boost economic growth is to cut welfare spending and deregulate the economy. It seems to work well for China.

Holy fuck, but you're hopelessly clueless.

Keep on with that hopelessly narrow view you have of economics. I'm done with trying to educate the ineducable.

Most probably not. Most probably a russian troll, trying to sow discontent and dissent.

Quote:I can't prove anything to you but most rational people would agree that strong vibrant growing economy is necessary to overcome challenges that Americans will face in the future while US GDP growth rate was unusually low for the last 15 years. One way to boost economic growth is to cut welfare spending and deregulate the economy. It seems to work well for China.

More proof you are anything but rational and your views on economics are anything but rational