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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 11:34 am
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(June 10, 2023 at 8:12 am)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 9, 2023 at 3:15 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: It is very cute that you should speak of “god” with a such an adult like knowing air as if god actually exists to be known.
God can be know if you approach Him on His terms.
So can any fictional creation be seemingly known as real if you approach it on the terms outlined in the fiction. But doing so should be the preserve of children playing make belief during games, not adults.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 4:29 pm
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 4:30 pm
So, kids with cancer is a selling point for god?
Try again.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 4:41 pm
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God just cant catch a break with the faithful, can he. Every time we think they've hit the floor with the shit they accuse their god of doing, someone pops up to dig another sub-basement.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 4:48 pm
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(June 10, 2023 at 4:30 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So, kids with cancer is a selling point for god?
Try again.
Kids with cancer -just like me, you and everybody else- are slaves of God according to Islam; instances of the same humanoid God shaped through Billions of years:
If they're not slaves to God, then they're slaves of nature.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 5:30 pm
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 5:31 pm
(June 10, 2023 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (June 10, 2023 at 4:30 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So, kids with cancer is a selling point for god?
Try again.
Kids with cancer -just like me, you and everybody else- are slaves of God according to Islam; instances of the same humanoid God shaped through Billions of years:
If they're not slaves to God, then they're slaves of nature.
*ticks the 'slave of nature' box on the form*
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 5:39 pm
I have a cousin with a grandson who is about 3 years old. He has already spent 2/3 of his life being ill from cancer and cancer treatments. Poor little thing also had this during the height of COVID and essentially had to live in a clean room for months on end. If that's what god's about, I'll pass.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 5:42 pm
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(June 10, 2023 at 7:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (June 10, 2023 at 3:49 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: I didn’t say any “god” worthy of worship is self contradicting. I say a god that is both all powerful and worthy of worship is self contradicting.
Not in any clear or obvious way.
The contradiction is all powerful entity would have no reason to ever come to behave in any specific way. Any attempt to explain how such an entity come to behave in any manner attributed to him inescapably and implicitly implies limitations in the entity’s power had compelled the entity to behave in a specific way to circumvent some effects of these limitations.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 10, 2023 at 7:59 pm
I'm still not seeing it. I think the inference is strained even in the case of natural beings. There are plenty of things I personally do that have nothing to do with any limitation on my own "power". Plenty of ways that I behave which are not compelled by overcoming limitations in some way. I get that a limited god couldn't be said to be all powerful in the plainest or strictest sense, but it's not clear that acting any particular way implies limitations - though we could grant that acting some ways does.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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