(December 15, 2011 at 4:37 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Its nice that the masters allow us to write down a name and put it in a suggestion box once every 4 years...isnt it?

Is electoral fraud really such a big problem in the USA?

It's the big pink elephant in the room that everyone bitches about, while the victors rewrite the story, excluding the elephant.

So McCain won the last election? Is there any proof of electoral fraud?

The U.S. is also home of the conspiracy theory. Well, you guys are a close second with all your UFOs.

We have UFO's??? Since when?

http://people.howstuffworks.com/question472.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat...tion,_2000

Even if more people voted for you, you can still be the loser. What kind of "fair" system is that? It's just not one.

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it's happened 4 times now too.

(December 15, 2011 at 6:44 pm)Tiberius Wrote: We have UFO's??? Since when?

Doesn't the term "foo fighters" come from RAF? What about Rendlesham Forest? You guys have tons of UFO stories. Of course, every country has UFOs, but you guys have enthusiasts that at least rival ours.

Wait, I think we're talking about completely different things here. I'm talking about electoral fraud, where some votes for the opposition aren't counted, or votes for the "winning side" are inflated. A quirk of an electoral system isn't electoral fraud; it's just a quirk of the system.

I'm not saying it's fair, just that it doesn't constitute electoral fraud. I happen to agree with you that it isn't fair, and I've already proposed (in the other thread) that Alternative Vote is a better (and fairer) way of deciding elections with one winner.

(December 15, 2011 at 6:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: Doesn't the term "foo fighters" come from RAF? What about Rendlesham Forest? You guys have tons of UFO stories. Of course, every country has UFOs, but you guys have enthusiasts that at least rival ours.

I've honestly never heard much about UFO stories in the UK. You guys have an entire town devoted to UFOs (Roswell)...I think you guys win this competition.

(December 15, 2011 at 6:46 pm)aleialoura Wrote: http://people.howstuffworks.com/question472.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat...tion,_2000

Even if more people voted for you, you can still be the loser. What kind of "fair" system is that? It's just not one.

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it's happened 4 times now too.

That's not quite what was being hinted at.

Well the fraud is debatable. I would take the safe bet and say they're fraudulent more than we're aware.