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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 3:22 am
NX in a nutshell
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 3:31 am
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(July 26, 2023 at 2:37 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: According to the Catholic Church, every mortal sin that is unrepented of until death earns you a place in eternal hell-fire. I didnt ask what the RCC thinks, but what YOU think. You can think, for yourself, cant you?
Do you agree with the RCC that talking bad about someone else warrants eternal torture?
(July 26, 2023 at 2:37 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: But all that aside, defamation, slander etc is unacceptable even in some courts of law. And what is the punishment, anywhere on the planet? Eternal torture? Do you think the "worldly" punishments for talking bad about another person are warranted?
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 6:31 am
(July 26, 2023 at 2:37 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: According to the Catholic Church, every mortal sin that is unrepented of until death earns you a place in eternal hell-fire. Those who sin mortally 10 times have a deeper place in hell than those who sin only once. Those who repent of a contrite heart, and confess their sins, are absolved of all eternal punishment. Those who do proper penance for their sins receive the remission also of temporal punishment and can go to Heaven without Purgatory if they complete perfect penance for all their sins here on Earth; otherwise, said years of penance will need to be fulfilled in Purgatory.
But all that aside, defamation, slander etc is unacceptable even in some courts of law. Let him answer for himself. He falsely claimed I didn't condemn it when I clearly did. He still has not condemned the Persecution of 360 MN Christians that is still ongoing in the world today, including in India.
If there's a way to get out of punishment for molesting kids, the church will find it.
You have excused the actions of CreepsInCollars over and over. Are you needing forgiveness also?
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 6:57 am
(July 26, 2023 at 2:37 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: According to the Catholic Church, every mortal sin that is unrepented of until death earns you a place in eternal hell-fire. Those who sin mortally 10 times have a deeper place in hell than those who sin only once. Those who repent of a contrite heart, and confess their sins, are absolved of all eternal punishment. Those who do proper penance for their sins receive the remission also of temporal punishment and can go to Heaven without Purgatory if they complete perfect penance for all their sins here on Earth; otherwise, said years of penance will need to be fulfilled in Purgatory.
But all that aside, defamation, slander etc is unacceptable even in some courts of law. Let him answer for himself. He falsely claimed I didn't condemn it when I clearly did. He still has not condemned the Persecution of 360 MN Christians that is still ongoing in the world today, including in India.
Prove that your God exists, THEN we can discuss who is going to Heaven or Hell. 
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 7:59 am
(July 26, 2023 at 1:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Nope, I soundly won it. Look at some of you Atheists declaring victory and thinking that means you won just by doing so, lol. Sorry, you need actual arguments for that: (1) Your famous Atheists like Darwin and Marx were Vicious Racists, while our (2) Devout Christians like Lincoln and Wilberforce were Wonderful Abolitionists, therefore we win, Christianity 100 - Atheism 0.
That accusation cuts both ways as you have done the same. Do you condemn yourself for that behavior, Xavier?
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 11:03 am
This seems to be a "poke NX" thread, but I think a question like this should be put into perspective.
The West lives in the shadow of Christianity, for good and bad. Without Christianity, there would've been something else. That something likely wouldn't have been Humanism of Atheism+. It would've been some other religion that could be twisted and used for nationalistic or imperialistic purposes.
I don't know if the enlightenment would've happened quicker without the church or not. All I can do is see what the various churches are doing now. They provide community and a sense of (false?) hope to their congregations. They also teach fairy tales, impede social progress, teach that reason is a "bad" thing, and minimize the importance of "this" life and the planet.
Christianity has far outlasted its best-before date.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 11:28 am
It civilized alot of savages. Catholics are still a work in progress.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 11:31 am
NX. *shudder*
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 11:36 am
Technically, if someone contributes to an organization and the organization uses that money to commit a criminal act, the contributor has enabled the criminal act by partially bankrolling it.
If you oppose pedophilia, Mr. Xavier, clearly the morally appropriate thing for you to do is to stop tithing.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:19 pm
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(July 26, 2023 at 11:03 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: This seems to be a "poke NX" thread, but I think a question like this should be put into perspective.
The West lives in the shadow of Christianity, for good and bad. Without Christianity, there would've been something else. That something likely wouldn't have been Humanism of Atheism+. It would've been some other religion that could be twisted and used for nationalistic or imperialistic purposes.
I don't know if the enlightenment would've happened quicker without the church or not. All I can do is see what the various churches are doing now. They provide community and a sense of (false?) hope to their congregations. They also teach fairy tales, impede social progress, teach that reason is a "bad" thing, and minimize the importance of "this" life and the planet.
Christianity has far outlasted its best-before date.
I think it’s best-before date was some time before jesus putatively died.
I think the use of religion for imperialistic purposes was largely an invention of christianity, and for that matter its use in that manner was baked into its intolerant and overreaching DNA nearly from the very start. The creeds and faiths that had been in wide circulation in Eurasia prior to christianity were generally mutually much more tolerant than christianity could possibly be capable of being without undermining overreaching self-agaggrandizing pretensions which is its basis.
christianity imposes it’s one and only sadomasochistic snuff fantasy on all those whom it could overpower, where many of the classical religions of europe to middle east wrre not loath to integrating the foreign dieties of defeated and conquered peoples into its own pantheon
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