(July 29, 2023 at 2:00 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: No one wants to persecute adulterers, misguided soul.

And yet that is what Catholic Church did for centuries and you are very vocal about how much you want the old ways back.

People at 30 know better than they did at 15. At 45 than at 30. At 60 then at 45. Generally speaking. That's how things generally work and so it's not surprising some things wrongly believed in the past are rightly believed no longer. However, killing babies through infanticide is regress, not progress. Regress to a pre-Christian Pagan Era, which the Divine Light of Christianity overcame and replaced with Beautiful Orphanages for Love of Precious Children.

Our Christianity is Beautiful. Your Marxist, Sangerite, Baby-Killing Infanticide, and your Kinseyian sexual revolution that leads to baby-killing are all bad, as were those Bad Men and Bad Racists, the Heretic Agnostic Atheist Darwin and the Apostate Complete Atheist Karl Marx, who was also a Vicious Racist. Follow these men if you want in what they taught about God with their Agnosticism and Atheism, but they can but lead you only to Hell. As for us, we will follow the Holy Life and Pure Example of Jesus and Mary, and that will lead us to Heaven.

(July 29, 2023 at 2:28 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Our Christianity is Beautiful.

Poppycock.

Your Christianity is the single worst disgrace of mankind by some margin, and mankind has produced a vast numbers of truly staggeringly speakable disgraces, yet none is as much a disgrace as your cult.

(July 29, 2023 at 1:07 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You must, however, from this adduce that morals change over time, as you tacitly admit here.

Or you might simply say that you support Biblical slavery and be honest about it.

You cannot, however, argue that the Bible is inerrant and argue that slavery is wrong -- unless you admit that morality is relative and/or subjective, or put shortly, not absolute.

This is the Christian conundrum, and on more issues than slavery. Morality is both relative and subjective, but you cannot acknowledge that without undermining your own god's alleged moral authority.

I do not support any kind of slavery. 

I have never argued that the Bible is inerrant. 

I do not know if morality is relative and subjective, or if it is real but that our understanding of it develops over time. 

I have never made any claims regarding any god's moral authority.

So long-winded buzzwords and empty bravado...

And to you, Anom, I reiterate: "Only Jesus Christ has expressed clearly, concisely, perfectly and precisely that these Two Commandments summarize the Whole Duty of Man and Woman on this Earth and are the Foundational Precepts of Religion. Only Jesus Christ has taught one should love even one's enemies and pray for those who persecute you and bless those who curse you. And He did it too on the Cross. Greater Love has no Man than [this], the Just Son of God most beautifully said, than that He should lay down His Life for His Friends; and yet, He had a Greater Love than even that in the Goodness of His Sacred Heart, for He laid down His Life even for His Enemies. One would have to be almost insane to not be able to see Jesus Christ was, at the least, a Good Man, and One of the Greatest Men to ever have existed, following and practicing whose teaching can but lead to human flourishing and human happiness even in this life."'

Repeating the same long-winded babble over again changes nothing

(July 29, 2023 at 3:00 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: And to you, Anom, I reiterate: "Only Jesus Christ has expressed clearly, concisely, perfectly and precisely that these Two Commandments summarize the Whole Duty of Man and Woman on this Earth and are the Foundational Precepts of Religion. Only Jesus Christ has taught one should love even one's enemies and pray for those who persecute you and bless those who curse you. And He did it too on the Cross. Greater Love has no Man than [this], the Just Son of God most beautifully said, than that He should lay down His Life for His Friends; and yet, He had a Greater Love than even that in the Goodness of His Sacred Heart, for He laid down His Life even for His Enemies. One would have to be almost insane to not be able to see Jesus Christ was, at the least, a Good Man, and One of the Greatest Men to ever have existed, following and practicing whose teaching can but lead to human flourishing and human happiness even in this life."'

strip away the ridiculously contrived and exorbitant hagiography that any cult would armor its godhead with to disguise its own overeach and vacuousness, and what still might be said to remain of the figure Jesus is most certainly not discernibly a good man.  He was not discernibly better than any of the self absorbed, self-important, manipulative overreaching bum with delusions of grandeur, not discernibly different from what are dime a dozen in the margins of most societies, especially prevalent in societies with deeply ingrained sense of superiority that had been rudely shattered by confrontation with reality.    And this no good manipulative layabout with delusions of grandeur, like so many others of his kind he, through his own misdeeds and insanity came to a miserable end.    
  
It was only the deeply unfortunate happenstance, occasioned to fatally dovetail with pervasive gullibility his uneducated peers and through the mechanizations of various actors with different, all discreditable motives,  that led to his becoming elevated to some sickening avatar at the head of your ridiculous cult.    That such a chain of event could happen and could dominate such a significant portion of human society for 2000 years is the greatest disgrace in the history of men.

(July 29, 2023 at 2:28 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: People at 30 know better than they did at 15. At 45 than at 30. At 60 then at 45. Generally speaking. That's how things generally work and so it's not surprising some things wrongly believed in the past are rightly believed no longer. However, killing babies through infanticide is regress, not progress. Regress to a pre-Christian Pagan Era, which the Divine Light of Christianity overcame and replaced with Beautiful Orphanages for Love of Precious Children.

So your priests and nuns can treat them cruelly,, beat them, molest them, and kill them.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/9-000...s-n1253862
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/pope-...and%201997.