Brian, here is Pope Leo XIII on Christian Democracy. Judge for yourself:

Quote:6. As against this, Christian Democracy, by the fact that it is Christian, is built, and necessarily so, on the basic principles of divine faith, and it must provide better conditions for the masses, with the ulterior object of promoting the perfection of souls made for things eternal. Hence, for Christian Democracy, justice is sacred; it must maintain that the right of acquiring and possessing property cannot be impugned, and it must safeguard the various distinctions and degrees which are indispensable in every well-ordered commonwealth. Finally, it must endeavor to preserve in every human society the form and the character which God ever impresses on it. It is clear, therefore, that there in nothing in common between Social and Christian Democracy. They differ from each other as much as the sect of socialism differs from the profession of Christianity.

7. Moreover, it would be a crime to distort this name of Christian Democracy to politics, for, although democracy, both in its philological and philosophical significations, implies popular government, yet in its present application it must be employed without any political significance, so as to mean nothing else than this beneficent Christian action in behalf of the people. For, the laws of nature and of the Gospel, which by right are superior to all human contingencies, are necessarily independent of all particular forms of civil government, while at the same time they are in harmony with everything that is not repugnant to morality and justice. They are, therefore, and they must remain absolutely free from the passions and the vicissitudes of parties, so that, under whatever political constitution, the citizens may and ought to abide by those laws which command them to love God above all things, and their neighbors as themselves. This has always been the policy of the Church. The Roman Pontiffs acted upon this principle, whenever they dealt with different countries, no matter what might be the character of their governments. Hence, the mind and the action of Catholics devoted to promoting the welfare of the working classes can never be actuated with the purpose of favoring and introducing one government in place of another.

https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/...ni-re.html

As for whether 1.3 BN Catholics should participate, I would be in favor of e.g. Catholics choosing Bishops from our Priests. St. Leo the Great says this was the custom in some places in the Early Church. At the highest levels, there are elections of Popes by Cardinals.

(July 30, 2023 at 6:42 am)h4ym4n Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 5:09 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Nobody can go to God's Palace in Heaven who does not love and serve God in humility as all His Holy Angels do, enjoying Eternal Happiness.

Liar


Aborted babies do. 

You said so yourself 


Got me on ignore, coward?

No, but perhaps you should cut out the Ad Hominems.

Aborted Babies go to Limbo.

At least one abortion made its way to these forums.

(July 30, 2023 at 6:44 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Brian, here is Pope Leo XIII on Christian Democracy. Judge for yourself:

Quote:6. As against this, Christian Democracy, by the fact that it is Christian, is built, and necessarily so, on the basic principles of divine faith, and it must provide better conditions for the masses, with the ulterior object of promoting the perfection of souls made for things eternal. Hence, for Christian Democracy, justice is sacred; it must maintain that the right of acquiring and possessing property cannot be impugned, and it must safeguard the various distinctions and degrees which are indispensable in every well-ordered commonwealth. Finally, it must endeavor to preserve in every human society the form and the character which God ever impresses on it. It is clear, therefore, that there in nothing in common between Social and Christian Democracy. They differ from each other as much as the sect of socialism differs from the profession of Christianity.

7. Moreover, it would be a crime to distort this name of Christian Democracy to politics, for, although democracy, both in its philological and philosophical significations, implies popular government, yet in its present application it must be employed without any political significance, so as to mean nothing else than this beneficent Christian action in behalf of the people. For, the laws of nature and of the Gospel, which by right are superior to all human contingencies, are necessarily independent of all particular forms of civil government, while at the same time they are in harmony with everything that is not repugnant to morality and justice. They are, therefore, and they must remain absolutely free from the passions and the vicissitudes of parties, so that, under whatever political constitution, the citizens may and ought to abide by those laws which command them to love God above all things, and their neighbors as themselves. This has always been the policy of the Church. The Roman Pontiffs acted upon this principle, whenever they dealt with different countries, no matter what might be the character of their governments. Hence, the mind and the action of Catholics devoted to promoting the welfare of the working classes can never be actuated with the purpose of favoring and introducing one government in place of another.

https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/...ni-re.html

A Christian democracy bears the same resemblance to an actual democracy as a dodo does to a dirigible, as it would - of necessity - exclude non-Christians from the political process.

Fuck Leo XIII.

Boru

(July 30, 2023 at 6:47 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 6:42 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Liar


Aborted babies do. 

You said so yourself 


Got me on ignore, coward?

No, but perhaps you should cut out the Ad Hominems.

Aborted Babies go to Limbo.

You said dead babies in limbo can get paroled to the big game aka paradise, didn’t you?

Would you rather be in limbo or hell, Xavier?

No, it wouldn't. It would be based on Christian Principles but work for the Common Good of All.

Limbo is better than Hell. But it is not as Good as Heaven. Nothing is certain about children who go to Limbo. It all depends on the Prayers and the Efforts of the Church, and also a Great Multitude of Humanity entering the Kingdom of God soon, so that we can then all pray and ask God about those Babies in Limbo

They may go to Heaven, they may not. It is not certain, but it can be prayed and asked for.

When you've made of religion a capitalist business, its veracity to truth goes up in smoke.

(July 30, 2023 at 7:13 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: No, it wouldn't. It would be based on Christian Principles but work for the Common Good of All.

Limbo is better than Hell. But it is not as Good as Heaven. Nothing is certain about children who go to Limbo. It all depends on the Prayers and the Efforts of the Church, and also a Great Multitude of Humanity entering the Kingdom of God soon, so that we can then all pray and ask God about those Babies in Limbo

They may go to Heaven, they may not. It is not certain, but it can be prayed and asked for.

If your god knows every hair on you head before you were born then if Hitler was aborted would he go to limbo or hell Xavier?


Remember godthing knows everything

(July 30, 2023 at 7:13 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: No, it wouldn't. It would be based on Christian Principles but work for the Common Good of All.

Limbo is better than Hell. But it is not as Good as Heaven. Nothing is certain about children who go to Limbo. It all depends on the Prayers and the Efforts of the Church, and also a Great Multitude of Humanity entering the Kingdom of God soon, so that we can then all pray and ask God about those Babies in Limbo

They may go to Heaven, they may not. It is not certain, but it can be prayed and asked for.

Why does you god punish innocent dead babies Xavier?

Why do they only get one step up from hell?