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What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 9:27 am
(July 30, 2023 at 9:08 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: If the World were just the United States, I might, Thump. But that is US specific data only.

if you think Christians are outbreeding Muslims, you're in for a pretty surprise. And if you think you'll see more young'uns take up the faith going forward, I have got a nice orange bridge I'd like to sell you.

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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 9:28 am (This post was last modified: July 30, 2023 at 9:28 am by Deesse23.)
(July 30, 2023 at 9:18 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: it's that meriting High Eternal Rewards sometimes requires suffering.
Not for a truly omnipotent god, and anyone but so utterly incompetent as you would easily notice.



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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 9:29 am
(July 30, 2023 at 9:20 am)Angrboda Wrote: Nishant Xavier:

Do you acknowledge that God cannot provide you with eternal happiness?

Not without a good, handsome blastoma!

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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 9:33 am
(July 29, 2023 at 7:09 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: And, once more, we get CLAIMS, links to biased websites, and bible quotes.

And if you're upset from a few choice words from Gawdzilla, little man, wait until I get started.

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Bring it.

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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 9:59 am
(July 30, 2023 at 9:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(July 29, 2023 at 7:09 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: And, once more, we get CLAIMS, links to biased websites, and bible quotes.

And if you're upset from a few choice words from Gawdzilla, little man, wait until I get started.

Sailors flee from bars when I really get going.

Bring it.

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Nah, I'm talking about REAL sailors, not boys in their dress whites drinking shandies and pink umbrella drinks.

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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 11:12 pm
(July 26, 2023 at 12:40 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: As for Abolition and Slavery, Prez. Lincoln and William Wilberforce, for e.g. as well as Anti-Slavery Crusader David Livingstone, were the Accomplished Abolitionists of their time, and they were devout Christians.

So Christians saved us from slavery which they invented and maintained. Aren't we lucky?

I mean just take a recent incident when people wanted to remove statues of Columbus because he was a slave trader. And he was a devout Christian because this is what Christians did. Do you know what else Christians did? They owned slaves.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 11:48 pm (This post was last modified: July 30, 2023 at 11:49 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:As for Abolition and Slavery, Prez. Lincoln 
Lincoln freed the slaves but he didn't give them full equality and his desire for racial integration was dubious 



Quote:William Wilberforce
An imperialist who supported the British Empire and it's underlining racist themes of "civilizing the world"



Quote:for e.g. as well as Anti-Slavery Crusader David Livingstone, were the Accomplished Abolitionists of their time, and they were devout Christians.
Yeah the guy who opened Africa to colonialism which lead to all the horrors that came from that 


These are your heroes? Also, Christianity doesn't get credit for fixing a problem it helped cause.
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 30, 2023 at 11:51 pm
Quote:it's that meriting High Eternal Rewards sometimes requires suffering.
Nope there is no requirement for this your god couldn't simply create eternal happiness as the default state. A test is pointless  Hehe
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 31, 2023 at 1:18 am
Here is a bit of trivia about Francesco del Giocondo (Mona Lisa's husband) from Leonardo's biography.

Quote:Having become the purveyor of silks to the Medici, he was increasingly prosperous, with clients throughout Europe, and he bought a few women Moors from North Africa to serve as his household slaves.

I mean how is this possible? African slave trade in Catholic Italy surrounded by popes and Catholic bishops? Why aren't all these clergymen and other devoted Christians saving these people when they are obviously anti-slavery?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 31, 2023 at 4:01 am
(July 30, 2023 at 9:59 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(July 30, 2023 at 9:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Bring it.

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What distinguishes REAL sailors?   Rum, lash and sodomy?
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